Talk:Lyall's wren

Name
Is this Traversia lyalli or Xenicus lyalli? Nurg 06:21, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * See atricle - Xenicus is preferred, but Traversia is plausible. Maybe they'll change it back to Traversia sometime soon, if they do DNA sequencing. Dysmorodrepanis 17:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * They have. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 04:45, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

What?
What is the following sentence trying to say, namely " It was only seen alive by Westerners on two occasions before the entire population was killed by the lighthouse keeper's cat named Tibbles in 1894"? Westerners = Europeans? The lighthouse keeper and one other "Westerner" built the lighthouse because no-one but those two ever visited that area? The bird never arrived there until after the lighthouse was built? Moriori 22:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * See March 7, 1995. Of course the whole story now reads rather different... Dysmorodrepanis 17:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Support changes
I support the most recent changes by Dysmorodrepanis. Congratulations on your research. --WikiCats 01:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It ruins a story I kind of liked, and had told to relatives, but good job Dysmorodrepanis. This might be one of the most obscure "historical myths" I know of.--T. Anthony 13:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. Excellent research by Dysmorodrepanis! Henriksdal 23:25, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, but we now have a user trying to reinsert the Tibbles myth. I have advised him not to remove the referenced material from the article and replace it with unreferenced contradictory opinion. I have a feeling this is heading to a 3RR situation so could someone else keep a eye on the page please. Moriori (talk) 19:55, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * And so it came to pass...... The user is still removing the referenced material and replacing it with unreferenced material. I have restored the referenced version, and given him a final block warning for disruptive editing. Moriori (talk) 02:23, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

A single cat?
Sensationalist much? In the same sentence it claims this species was driven to extinction by a single cat, but then immediately goes to say the island was overrun with feral cats. Cats can't spontaneously reproduce.

Then it goes on to say this:

"Much of what is commonly assumed to be established knowledge about this species' extinction is wrong or misinterpreted, starting with the account by Rothschild (1905) who claimed that a single cat had killed all the birds."

So the article contradicts the statement multiple times.

75.76.197.245 (talk) 02:44, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Sensationalist? Not a bit.
 * The lead says the keepers cat was blamed, but feral cats were responsible. True.
 * The Extinction section says previous blame given to the keeper's cat is wrong or misinterpreted. True.
 * Where are the multiple contradictions? What is sensationalist about t? Moriori (talk) 03:26, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

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Number disagreement
From the article:

"It is the best known of the five or so flightless passerines (songbirds) known to science,[6] all of which were inhabitants of islands and are now extinct. The others were three New Zealand wrens (long-billed wren and stout-legged wren) and the long-legged bunting from Tenerife, all of which were only recently discovered as fossils and became extinct in prehistoric times. "

The birds named parenthetically don't match the number stated. This is like saying, "These are my three brothers (Allan and Bill) and my cousin Carl."

2warped@gmail.com 2601:407:4180:40E9:552B:60D0:F645:D3B8 (talk) 09:43, 5 January 2019 (UTC)


 * The problem is that there were at one point two species of stout-legged wren (Pachyplicas), but now they're generally treated as one. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 08:53, 6 January 2019 (UTC)