Talk:Mérida Initiative

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This is a biased article. 72.37.171.20 (talk) 17:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)BigCarter


 * This is a totally one-sided article. We need an unbiased perspective with seperate sections of the pro's and con's of this issue.


 * Under the "Background" section, at the end of the first paragraph there is a sentence which reads, "Still, the drug cartels enjoy no support from the Mexican public."

Allow me to totally agree and suggest this article for a counter-reference: Cartels recruit civilian support. 140.32.16.100 (talk) 00:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

The sentence is obviously unsupportable and should be stricken for quality purposes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kshultz138 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Balance
I've been doing some weighing of both pro and cons. I think it is balanced or nearely so.BatteryIncluded (talk) 21:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

BatteryIncluded has done some wonderful work on contributing to the article and making it more balanced. We have to keep in mind it's all pretty new and not much is out there with regard to successes or failures of this particular project. Greentico (talk) 21:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * If the initiative is enacted, it will take time to both governments to generate statistics and reports on success or failures. Same with human rights progress/violations by Mexican armed forces.BatteryIncluded (talk) 03:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Progress section
I have tagged this statement for, as a matter of international protocol, leaders of other nations will generally make this sort of observations only to their counterparts in the U.S. (the Prez or Sec of State) or thru their ambassadors. To exacerbate, the link provided is a dead link. The statement should be rephrased to avoid this claim if it cannot be verified or, better, provide a link from another publication to substatiate it. Mercy11 (talk) 14:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

As the killing, poverty, drug trafficking and cartel power don't shrink: where is the progress? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.166.41.102 (talk) 02:00, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Torture?
Based on the cited material, I'm not seeing a link between Mérida and torture. I see that there are several articles cited that talk about torture. The torture training that the articles are talking about have nothing to do with Mérida. The authors of the cited articles write that some people are concerned that more torture training could possible come as a result of the (what was at the time) future implementation of Mérida. Furthermore, the cited articles aren't reliable. Here's what's cited:


 * A blog from the LA Times (blogs aren't reliable)
 * An article from Newser (dubious reliability; unheard of source; motto is "read less, know more")
 * A dead link to a CNN article
 * A dead link to an ABC News article
 * Another blog from the LA Times
 * An article from the World Socialist Web (hardly an unbiased source)
 * A letter to the editor in the Washington Post
 * A dead link to a Rolling Stone article

Strike one: The section makes a false claim. Strike two: They're in a criticism section (which is contrary to Wiki Policy). Strike three: They rely on uncredible sources. I say the torture section should be AXED. Anyone agree? disagree? --Lacarids (talk) 16:36, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

It should certainly not be "axed." Links go dead, that's just what happens. Surely they should be updated. The section does not make a false claim and a connection between the Merida Initiative and torture is really common knowledge and long since established: the Mexican army and police practice torture en masse and the US funds and arms them with hundreds of millions of dollars in military/security aid. Unsurprising as the program is largely adapted from "Plan Colombia." Here is a link to an article from a director of the Washington-based think tank Center for International Policy http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-carlsen/mexican-torture-training_b_111784.html ... furthermore, the leaked torture-training tapes by Mexican journalists at the El Heraldo de León paper are an old and well-known story that seems to indicate an even closer connection between the Merida Initiative and torture. The trainers in the video are US private security contractors indicated to be from Risks Incorporated, which has a long history of receiving government contracts for dubious activities such as in Haiti. The following article from Narco News (independent journalists well-known for breaking a number of Drug War stories well before major media apes their coverage) includes quite a bit of thorough research: http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/kristin-bricker/2008/07/company-led-training-torture-techniques-mexican-police-is-risks-inc 71.167.107.243 (talk) 03:45, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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