Talk:Mad TV/Archive 1

Vote for Deletion

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This article was merged with and redirected to MADtv as a result of a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 00:56, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


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"Lillian Verner Game Show" announcer?
Does anybody know who plays the announcer in the "Lillian Verner Game Show" sketches? My brother is convinced that it's Tom Kenny.Ian the Gecko 08:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Simian is played by Michael Hitchcock, who is probably best known for playing Hamilton Swan in Best in Show. I just created a Trivia section to cover this. &mdash;  Stevie is the man!  Talk 17:33, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

He is also a writer on MadTV.

Simian
Simian(Lillian Verner) is played By Michael Hitchcock.

Does anyone else think this article is biased against MadTv? Yeah I think it is. Personally, SNL has not been funny to me for years, and I find MAD TV's writers to be more innovative. That aside, this article, from what little non cast information is written, seems slanted.


 * I totally agree that MADtv is far funnier and more innovative than SNL, and I used to be an SNL fan. However, I don't see any bias against MADtv in the article.  Could you be more specific? &mdash;  Stevie is the man!  Talk 17:36, 24 September 2005 (UTC)


 * yeah, SNL has been total rubbish over the past five to seven years, while Mad Tv is showing few signs of slowing Mkaycomputer 20:11, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
I put a tag on the article. The second paragraph, in particular, seems heavily biased in favor of certain seasons of the show over others. Powers 18:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

It was me that wrote the second paragraph. The MADtv Article needed to be expanded so i put what happened during the seasons. Metlover21 5:44pm 3 Febuary 2006 (UTC) If You would consider taking the POV check because i fixed it and it is perfectly balanced Metlover21
 * It's better, but there's still lots of POV in that paragraph. "Edgier and FRESH"?  "forgettable"?  "Show's writing was getting weaker"?  Those are all POV terms.  Now, if you were to remove all of the POV terms from that paragraph, then we'd be left with nothing more than a list of cast changes, which is covered later in the article (season-by-season cast lists).  So, what would be better is if you could find a SOURCE for those opinions.  Remember, it's ok to have POV terms in an article if you attribute them to a source.
 * Plus, the paragraph is too long and the style is a little too informal. Once we get sources in there, we can work on that.  =)  Powers 23:01, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I got rid of the POV comments, and fixed the spacing, capitalization, wording and punctuation problems, but the comments on the "skyrocketed" second season needs a source, so I tagged it. Nightscream 07:45, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice work. Powers 15:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Nightscream 04:28, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow who ever fixed up this article must be good and who ever took my words and did that must be god at this Metlover21 17:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Article renaming

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User:Anas7 (Talk, Contribs) recently renamed the page to MAD TV (comedy TV). While I don't like the fact that this was done without discussion, since there does seem to be a tv station in Greece that shares this name (MAD TV (music TV)) we may need a disambiguation page of some sort. I've already listed this on WP:RM.

Requested move (2006)
MAD TV (comedy TV) → MADtv – {move back to MADtv, with a disambig notice to MAD TV (music TV)}


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 * Support. &mdash; EagleOne\Talk 04:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Support with caveat: neither article needs a disambiguation phrase in the title. We are allowed to have two articles, one called "MAD TV" and the other called "MADtv".  So this article should be "MADtv" with a hatnote saying This article is about the American comedy series.  For the Greece music channel, see MAD TV.  And the other article should have the reverse.  Powers 12:39, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Has already been done now. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 07:27, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


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Expansion
This article needs to be expanded. Its popularity is growing exponentially, and all its article contains is a cast list and a brief summary. Compared to Saturday Night Live's article, this article is a travesty. Sure, SNL has 20 years on MadTV, but we could use a little more information. Mkaycomputer 19:51, 12 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Second that. I've been watching the show off and on for years, long enough to know a lot of the main actor names, and I'm amazed that Will Sasso, Alex Borstein and Mo Collins don't have more than a "trivia" mention - they're all *key* MADtv players who have given the show many of its finest moments. No write-up of this show should exclude members who gave that much to it. --Whit 06:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

production costs
Could someone add how much it costs to produce MadTV? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.88.245.165 (talk) 21:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Notes of Tenure
Just wondering why the phrase '...seven-year barrier' is in bold witin the article? Does it hold some sort of implicit meaning or something? Londonsista (talk) 16:46, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Ending the run?
Because of the Writer's Strike, is the show cancelled after the 13 years on the air or just taking a hiatus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.188.126.78 (talk) 17:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Michael McDonald's Cast tenure
he been on the show for 10 seasons but when his last cast apperance will be dated or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.127.178.158 (talk) 21:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Popular sketches
there should be a list of popular sketches...like laguna biotch and tickle me emo and kenny roger's jackass and stuart

Seek and ye shall find: MADtv recurring characters Kinkyturnip (talk) 21:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

What other animation studios made Spy vs Spy? I don't really know. please find it for me please

User:SonicTV64 (talk) March 6, 2016 (UTC)

Music Parodies
what about all the musical parodies? Seems like there should be a list of them all.

In episode summaries for each season of MADtv &mdash; where it belongs &mdash; mention of several musical parodies is included. And remember:

Kinkyturnip (talk) 21:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

How should each season be numbered?
I noticed someone recently changed format of each season from numerals (e.g., Season 1) to spelling out number (e.g., Season one) on the MADtv main page. However, the page for each season is in the old format &mdash; numerals. Curiously, the links from MADtv main page to individual seasons are coded like this: MADtv season 1|MADtv season one.

I applaud the editor who was paying attention to this, because the whole number thing gets on my nerves (sorry, picky copy editor here). Has anyone pored over the Wiki Manual of Style enough to know the right conventions to follow? Trying to find specific information in the MOS is a nightmare for me &mdash; and I'm a pretty dedicated Wiki.

I checked out Saturday Night Live entry for comparison because that show is similar to MADtv. Looks like SNL uses numerals instead of spelling out numbers for each season.

Anyone care to add their 2 cents/two cents to this? I'd like to follow Wiki guidelines and be consistent. Thanks, Wikis. Kinkyturnip (talk) 22:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Them
Subscript text Not all ove the characters from last nights show Saturday 14, 2008 Are listed in the " cast " category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heretic777 (talk • contribs) 03:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Requested move (2008)

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The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR (talk) 17:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

MADtv appears to be violating WP:MOSTM to me. "Mad" shouldn't be capitalized since it's not an acronym (like Mad magazine). "Mad TV" appears to be the most common way to spell this television show (it's how the Internet Movie Database and Jump the Shark  refers to it) without blatantly trying to imitate the Mad TV logo.

On a side note, I don't think this article would need a disambiguator to distinguish itself from Mad TV (video game) or MAD TV (Greece), as this article seems to be a far more common search term. Then again, I could be wrong. Xnux  the   Echidna  00:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. – Cyrus XIII (talk) 20:19, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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What Does It Mean To Be A Featured Member??
On the show do they get paid more??
 * They are not part of the original cast. They are guest stars, some of them later became part of the main cast in subsequet seasons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.225.224.55 (talk) 10:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Potential lock?
As hilarious as such lines as "The primary reason for the cancellation is speculated to be the fact that the show has never been funny once in 14 years." are, they're not true nor sourced, so maybe this article should be at least semi-protected until further updates are confirmed. AndarielHalo (talk) 18:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Keenen Ivory Wayans
I don't think proper research was done here. Keenen Wayans created this show, just like he created "In Living Color". The theme music is from the same hip hop artist, Heavy D and the Boyz. MPA 22:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MPA (talk • contribs)

Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters
A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion or exclusion of episodes and characters, as well as other fiction articles. Please visit the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction). Ikip (talk) 17:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Series Finale
Will it be scheduled in May? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.93.134 (talk) 19:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I would also appreciate any credible / sourced information regarding the show's future or lack of future of new episodes. They have switched back to having Spike F. have only 1/2 hour show and following MadTV again rather than leading it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.90.238.202 (talk) 20:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Boson Dart?
"Best Use of a Boson Dart" doesn't seem like a legitimate "Hollywood Makeup Artist and Hair Stylist Guild Award" category to me. Video clips of prank calls to live TV call-in shows. ThankYouForTakingMyCall.com (talk) 03:17, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

"Is" or "Was?"
Although some people seem to want to keep it as "MADtv is" instead of "was," I don't see the need. The show itself has been cancelled, so why put it in the present tense? I think it should be "was." --BluWik (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter that the show is cancelled. WP:MOSTV clearly states References to the show should be in the present tense since shows no longer airing still exist, including in the lead (i.e. Title is a...). Unless the show was wiped and no longer exists in any form, we refer to it in the present tense.  Pinkadelica ♣  00:01, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, what if a show no longer airs on television, but still sells the seasons on DVD? Would the show still "exist?" If so, then what if the company stopped selling the DVDs, then would it no longer "exist," since it doesn't air on TV either? --71.225.89.57 (talk) 19:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, what if the show cannot be sold or broadcast anywhere, but archives of the show can be found on YouTube. Would that make it "exist?" --71.225.89.57 (talk) 20:03, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter if the show isn't broadcast on television or sold on DVD - it still exists in somewhere even if that somewhere is in a vault. In theory, the show can be seen by someone so it still exists. Unless the show was wiped (which, to my knowledge, isn't widely practiced anymore) and completely lost to the ages, we don't say "was" in the context of articles.  Pinkadelica ♣  20:43, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

orlando jones?
why is orlando jones not mentioned in the entire MadTV article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Jones — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.178.123.113 (talk) 12:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

No connection?
Could someone please explain how the series had no connection with the humor magazine? PRProgRock (talk) 05:52, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

"Unrelated animated sketch comedy series"
This is used in the opening to describe MAD, the TV show. However, it also says it succeeded MADtv. The phrase is "was succeeded by an unrelated animated sketch comedy series". How is it a successor if it is unrelated? StewdioMACK (talk) 15:40, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 27 November 2014

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 20:30, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Mad TV → MADtv – All associated articles refer to the show with this title, as well as many other articles and most references. The show's own logo implies this also. StewdioMACK (talk) 11:16, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Survey

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 * Question - what do printed books on media do? In ictu oculi (talk) 12:31, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Support Books use both versions, www.imdb.com/title/tt0112056/ use MADtv. I think that WP:MOSTM in this case would be a ridiculous irrelevance.  Let's use as per most common usage but whatever the result I'd suggest a moratorium on moves for a couple of years.  The presentation is a borderline issue of importance and this should not be raised again.  Gregkaye  ✍ ♪  14:17, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose per MOS:TM. Among the variants in use, we should use the stylization that most resembles ordinary English, not the stylization that most closely resembles the brand logo. —BarrelProof (talk) 23:40, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose per BarrelProof and MOS:CAPS -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 07:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC)


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Articles I moved
I made a request to move the main article (this article) back to "MADtv", but there was no consensus. So I'm moving all related pages to the new title. I'm trying to update the article content also (as well as links), but if I miss anything, please go ahead and help me out and change it. Thank you! And if I screwed up, leave me a message on my talk page. StewdioMACK (talk) 13:20, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Cast list article edits
Editors that are involved with this article may want to comment at the cast list article's talk page concerning [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Mad_TV_cast_members&diff=646330992&oldid=645170493 a recent large edit] to the list. --Fru1tbat (talk) 14:51, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Ironic?
Would an encyclopedia use words like Ironically or a phrase like, "Even more strange"? Seems unprofessional to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.88.245.165 (talk) 20:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Ironically, I agree...and literally; although figuratively. AntonFMD (talk) 05:47, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Defamer: MadTV officially canceled
http://defamer.com/5084413/defamer-exclusive-madtv-canceled —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macshill (talk • contribs) 21:02, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

That's sad. Blueknightex (talk) 03:42, 9 May 2009 (UTC) I hate Saturday Night Live!

Not really, it hadn't been funny in years. AntonFMD (talk) 05:49, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Update emmys
Was nominated at this year's Emmy Awards for Outstanding Make-up for a Multi-Camera Series or Special (Non-Prosthetic)SecretName101 (talk) 07:00, 11 September 2017 (UTC)