Talk:Malayalam script

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An earlier version of this page, with a copy at http://www.fact-index.com/m/ma/malayalam_alphabet.html has the consonants lla, llla and rra in a different order with respect to other consonants. This site has them in another order. Can anyone confirm what the correct Malayalam alphabetical order is? The current page seems to follow the order of Unicode code-points, which IMHO is not the correct way to introduce an alphabet. -- Paddu 19:59, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

It seems to, that there is no good and definitive reference on web. If I get the story right, default Unicode collation simply followed ISCII, not taking into account the differences between indic scripts. There seems to be some discussion on changing this, and at some point the default Unicode collation may be updated to something usefull. See -- Pjacobi 21:01, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Any chance of some instructions on how to download the thing you need to read this page? The Recycling Troll 02:47, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/fonts_windows.html#malayalam -- Pjacobi 10:48, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Mistake in Unicode script
The vowel diacritics for the consonants in Malayalam should, for the most part, precede the consonant. For the letters o and O, the e and E signs should respectively appear before the consonant, and after the consonant the elongated A diacritic should appear.

Please correct this if you know how to work with computer language. Thanks.


 * The coding of the page is correct, but it seems to need a major effort to make a computer capable of correctly displaying Malayalam Unicode, see http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Welcome%2C_newcomers
 * Pjacobi 01:33, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Malayalam numeral Zero
The malayalam numeral Zero shown in this page appears to be incorrect. In the early books, and in statues (see teh statue of Sre. T.P. Madhava Rao in Trivandrum) the numeral zero is used as used in sanskrit i.e 0 itself. The symbol shown here was used sometimes to represent the number 10 as a whole. Verify this and correct.

need script translation at WikiProject India/Translation
Need scripts of malayalam.--D-Boy 18:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

How do I form the NKA charactor? -- I owe you my thanks to anyone who tells me, and I hope to help you in the future with a need of yours, Samuel 13 th February, 02007

I found the charactor at http://ml.wikipedia.com/, as in the words: എബ്രഹാം ലിങ്കണ്‍

Thank you,

Samuel പകലൊമററം http://www.geocities.com/pakalomattamfamily/orethu1.pdf Pakalomattam 16:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Malayalam script disappearance on Wikipedia
Hello all,

I would like to know why the Malayalam script is not visible on Wikipedia anymore. Can anybody help me on this? Regards.

Wiki Raja 01:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

It's still there as far as I see it.

Thank you,

Samuel പകലൊമററം http://www.geocities.com/pakalomattamfamily/orethu1.pdf Pakalomattam 16:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Information About Traditional Malayalam Script
I think information about the traditional malayalam script before the Script Reform must also be added to the article. Also there is no information about Malaylam Conjuncts in this article. They must also be added

Editor for unicode
I would like to know how to write in unicode Malayalam. If anyone knows an editor for it, would you write me. The link to the editor at the bottom of this article is not able to create all letters, e.g. the nk sound in Sankarapoori, one of my ancestral family names.

Thank you,

Samuel പകലൊമററം http://www.geocities.com/pakalomattamfamily/orethu1.pdf 16:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Please Update Page to include Malaylam Cillaksarams or "Chillu letters"
Malayalam has several independent letter forms for consonants, when they are syllable final and lack an inherent vowel. These forms are titled 'cillaksarams' and are important in numerous cases for differentiating between two possible alternatives of one written gloss.

On July 2005 Unicode Temporarily allotted code positions for chillaksharams based on Public Review 66. Then, after getting a response from the Rachana Team titled "Chandrakkala. Samvruthokaram. Chillaksharam." Unicode withdrew the code position allotment for chillaksharam on September 2005. After that as a part of discussion, a large number of response documents were submitted before Unicode. Based up on Eric Muller's Report Summarising the discussion and proposing Allotment of Chillu letters, submitted to Unicode on May 2006, It is approved On July 2006.

You can read about the discussion and the letter forms here: http://lists.sarovar.org/pipermail/plus-discuss/2006-October/000491.html and read Eric Muller's Report here: http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/N3126.pdf

Can someone perhaps update the page to include these letters, once they are supported by unicode? I would be happy to do it, but I don't have the know-how.

(5amuel 14:04, 30 May 2007 (UTC))

I'll just post this link for now: http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.1.0/#Malayalam_Chillu_Characters There are many things to update... Gyopi (talk) 10:13, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I just added Malayalam_script. No time to include more examples, nor /nt/ etc. nor Dot reph (yet). I think more ligatures should be handled first. If you're still around, please help.—Gyopi (talk) 09:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Dravidian civilizations
Wiki Raja 09:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Example of the script?
It's all question marks now, can somebody include a picture of the script? It doesn't do any good to just have question marks. --AW (talk) 10:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

for LING 1100-108
Wow, Lulu, you have really expanded this stub in the introduction. Good Job! I think you have included most of the topics on Malayalam script; however I did notice that when you mentioned the distinction between vowels and consonants at the end of introduction, you should probably continue to write a few extra sentences. Right now it seems to me that the last part of your writing is sort of imcomplete. Thanks Lunabunny (talk) 06:11, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Nice job, Lulu. The expanded introduction is very informative. I noticed that in the second paragraph of the introduction, starting with "During 1970-1980..." the word "emerged" is spelled incorrectly as "immerged"; you might want to fix that. In the paragraph on "Adaptation of Malayalam script for other languages" that was deleted later, maybe if you rewrote it and were more specific on why it is difficult to adapt, then you could add that section back. Why wouldn't other languages be able to use or modify the consonant and vowel diacritic? Thanks! --zcat13 (talk) 21:41, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments, I took most of your comments and made necessary modifications. The only thing I decided against adding was the "Adaptation of Malayalam script for other languages". I can see where the person who deleted the section is coming from since a section like that is of little value in the Wiki page. It seems unlikely that anyone looking up the malayalam script would be wondering whether it was a script easily adaptable to other langauages unless it was specifically the topic of their assignment. This is usally not a quality of the script that is often discussed. --Lululululu12 (talk) 04:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

-moz-column-count
Currently the  hacks are used in this article, which is a bit ugly, and works only on Mozilla (Firefox) anyway. If 2 tables are to be placed side by side, Template:Multicol can be used for better browser support. But now the "Remarks" column of the "Consonants" table is a bit too narrow, not exactly easy to read when a lengthy text is put there, isn't it...? So I'd like to make the "Consonants" table one wide table, like the "Vowels" table currently is, not divided into two parts, placed side by side. Would that be okay? Also, someone please help improve the text, anyone. I'm not really good at writing and I could really use some help :) —Gyopi (talk) 08:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Changed.—Gyopi (talk) 08:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Usage of reformed vs traditional script
The statement that "The new orthography ..., is now used commonly, but has not completely replaced the traditional system" is not well supported by the reference. The reference says the reformed script is mostly used in just a few kinds of publications.

Could we see a reference to some statistics?

Stevan White (talk) 14:57, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

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Support for the ligature nṯa ?
Has there been any advance in support for the ligature nṯa since 2011? DFH (talk) 17:37, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

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GA Nomination
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Other consonants, missing reference "I"
Below the "Other consonants" table, what does note "I" refer to? Joe Forster/STA (talk) 12:51, 26 April 2020 (UTC)