Talk:Maniac (miniseries)

Remove 2016?

The article says that the series is scheduled to air in 2016, but considering they haven't even started shooting yet and have not announced an official release date, I think we should remove that line altogether. -RM (talk) 18:21, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Guest

@BoogerD: so how do these 3 have major impact on their episodes? One is labelled as “Therapist” (no first or last name), and one doesn’t even have a character name listed. If we looked at the Breaking Bad guest star section, we see the listed individuals had significance in their episodes. Having a Wikipedia article and just happening to appear in a singular episode of a show doesn’t make said appearance a guest appearance, or one of importance to notarize. Rusted AutoParts 22:05, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: First off Wikipedia:Other stuff exists would discourage the point you are making about Breaking Bad. I suppose I will go through and list why each of the three characters is notable in the episodes in which they appear:

1. Calvin, played by Marcus Toji, is directly responsible for Annie signing up for the study. He was the reason she got hooked on the drug and was the one who put the idea in her mind to go to NPB.

2. Sebastian, played by Glenn Fleshler, is the titular Sebastian of the episode in which he appears ("Furs by Sebastian") and he acts as the main antagonist figure in that episode. He is heavily featured and it is against he that Stone and Hill's characters are struggling against for most of the runtime.

3. The therapist, played by Jennifer Ikeda, is the woman to whom Owen goes to see now that he has been sent away to a psychiatric facility by the final episode. It is through her dialogue with him that she encourages him to seek out Annie again, which he eventually does.

Finally, while many television series articles try to limit the number of guest appearances included, many individual television season pages include a list of guest cast and characters, some of which can be quite long. The listed guest appearances in Maniac's article numbers only 3 out of what I counted to be at least 25 other credited guest actors. The three listed were chosen with great prudence. And, for what its worth, not everyone listed in the Breaking Bad guest cast section played a significant role in the episode in which they appeared. Charlie Rose, for instance, had a glorified cameo. – BoogerD (talk) 22:33, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Other Stuff Exists is just a pumped up essay that people turn to for means of deflecting any form of debates, but I’ll move on from this. And Rose falls into exactly what guest appearance details. Rusted AutoParts 22:44, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

External link

hey, I am a new user in the Wikipedia, I wanna add one external link to this page, this link is I know not from the very famous website but It is also not from the spammy website so If you think that this is the relevant source then you add it. the external website is http://www.whyit.in/netflix-maniac/ . --Harshil84 (talk) 05:05, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

As many editors have pointed out, myself included, the website you keep trying to add to television articles (which many suspect to be your own website) is not a reliable, secondary source nor it is it particularly notable. It is unnecessary to add to this or any article. – BoogerD (talk) 05:22, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Summary description

The introductory paragraph provides a summary description of the series as follows: "an American dark comedy web television miniseries". Is a Netflix Original considered "web television"? Yes, it is a dark comedy but the series' website also lists it as a drama and IMDB considers it "Comedy, Drama, Sci-Fi". The show has significant aspects of both drama and science fiction. Should the summary description be revised to something like "an American dark comedy, drama, science fiction miniseries"? Ronald Joe Record (talk) 16:14, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

I can't speak too much to the genre aspect of your question though my impulse would be, yes, they should be added as they are an accurate description of the series. To your other point: yes, Netflix Originals (and Hulu Originals and Amazon Originals) are considered web television. Look at any number of articles for other Netflix series including House of Cards, Stranger Things, and Orange is the New Black and you will see that consensus has decided to label them as such. – BoogerD (talk) 17:56, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I just checked on the show's page on the Netflix website and they list it under three genres: TV comedies, TV dramas, and TV dramadies. My impulse now I think would be to describe it as "an American science-fiction comedy-drama web television miniseries". – BoogerD (talk) 18:00, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Lead

@BoogerD: Per WP:BRD, I'm asking for some clarification on your defense of the lead. The current first sentence reads

Maniac is an American psychological dark comedy-drama web television miniseries, based on the Norwegian television series of the same name by Espen PA Lervaag, Håakon Bast Mossige, Kjetil Indregard, and Ole Marius Araldsen, that premiered on September 21, 2018 on Netflix.

This is ambiguous wording that could imply the Norwegian series premiered in 2018. Though technically it is grammatically correct, it's slightly confusing. I think this could be separated into a new sentence for clarity, as seen in House of Cards (U.S. TV series), Veep, and Shameless (U.S. TV series). – Broccoli & Coffee ^{(Oh hai)} 08:05, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Agree with B&C. That long sentence is too complex. Jack N. Stock (talk) 10:58, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I only saw this discussion after I'd already re-worded the lead. Hope it meets approval! Captainllama (talk) 13:50, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

I like Captainllama's edit. Thanks! – Broccoli & Coffee ^{(Oh hai)} 17:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

@Broccoli and Coffee: Finally saw your message. Found your argument to be sound and I'd actually agree that it was wordy originally. After reviewing the latest version of the lead, I found it to be in need of further work. I just took another pass at it with its current version split into three sentences. Let me know what you think! Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. – BoogerD (talk) 22:50, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

This works for me as well. Thanks for the response. – Broccoli & Coffee ^{(Oh hai)} 23:22, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

No problem! – BoogerD (talk) 23:24, 27 November 2018 (UTC)