Talk:Mansfield Smith-Cumming

William Melville as M?

 * Reilly became a paid informant for the émigré intelligence network of William Melville who was the superintendent of Scotland Yard's Special Branch and, according to biographer Andrew Cook, was later the clandestine head of the early British Secret Service using the code name "M."

This is what is claimed in Wikipedia's article about Sidney Reilly. Additionally, this is what it says in William Melville's article:


 * According to the conclusions of author Andrew Cook, his biographer, which are not accepted by all historians, Melville then became the head of British Secret Service with the code name "M".

Andrew Cook is the source for both passages... How should this Melville stuff be reflected in this article????? 216.161.152.107 04:57, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Penknife amputation
According to the book Inside Britain's Mi6: Military Intelligence 6 by Shaun McCormack, which I found through Google booksearch, the story that Cumming cut off his own leg with a penknife, is not true. According to this book hospital records show that his foot was amputated the day after the accident. I've included this in the article. The link to the page is here. Alternartively, it can be found by searching for "cumming penknife". I don't know the specifics and requirements for references, but if this qualifies, I guess it can be added. risk 02:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Yet our article goes on to claim that M-C's whole leg was artificial thereafter. So which was it? Which do we stand behind? Mandrakos (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:37, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Maxwell Knight: The Man Who Was M

According to Anthony Masters Maxwell Knight -head of section B5(b) of the MI5- was M.

Masters, Anthony. The Man Who Was M - The life of Maxwell Knight (Grafton Books 1986). ISBN 9780586068670

See this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_Knight

Mansfield Cumming information found on Ancestry web site.
Great Britain, Royal Aero Club Aviators’ Certificates, 1910-1950 about Mansfield Cumming

On the index card for Commander Mansfield Smith Cummimngs RAC Aviators Certificate dated 5th Dec 1913 from a test taken at the Farman School Etampes, France in a Maurice Farman Biplane on 10th Nov 1913. Mansfield Cumming's address is given as 2 Whitehall Court London S.W. and his Date and place of Birth as 1st Apr 1859 at Blackheath, Kent. There is a "French Cert" No 1568 and another 727

There is a Photograph of him attached to the record 727. He has the earliest birth date of all the people issued with Aviators Certificates.

There is a World War One Medal Record for Alexander Mansfield Smith Cumming of the Seaforth Highlanders. The information is hard to decipher but it gives a date of death as 3rd Oct 1914 - It Notes "1st Class Agent" MEDALS "Seaforths - Victory" "British" "Inter:Intel Corps STAR"

Disembarcation returns 25-8-14

- Mansfield G. Smith appears in the 1861, 1871, and 1881 Censuses with birth place as Kent.

I am not sure what to do with this information but it is all here .... http://picasaweb.google.com/ricbake/SmithCumming

Ric Baker (talk) 17:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ricbake (talk • contribs) 17:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Name
Look, I mentioning it here serves no practical purpose to Wikipedia. But I had the strong urge to make a small mention of it in the article itself. If I had exclusive control I would, but I don't think the more powerful Wikipedians would approve. But it has to be said:

A guy named Cumming studied the usefulness (beyond procreation) of semen. The universe has a sense of humor. -- MQ Duck 12:43, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * + born on April 1st.
 * Sounds like the best hoax, republished everywhere since then. 92.88.170.240 (talk) 08:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)