Talk:Mansur Ahmad Saad al-Dayfi

Omission of Allegations / NPOV
If this article aims to be encyclopedic, why isn't the reason why al-Dayfi was captured and held at Guantanamo mentioned in the current version of this article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 03:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)


 * This page appears to have been heavily edited by an editor identifying as the subject himself in edit comments, Mansur Ahmad Saad al-Dayfi, to remove information related to that, which seems relevant to this topic, but also raises thorny questions of sourcing and topic contention.
 * Handling this isn't really my area of expertise as a wikipedia editor, but I've tagged the page for NPOV issues - I think any wikipedia page where there have been numerous edits by the topic of the page calls into question the NPOV. Suntzu3500 (talk) 17:19, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I looked back and it seemed the edits purporting to be from the article's subject were from 2020, and reverted. Is there something specific you have in mind that we should add? JArthur1984 (talk) 19:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Not all were reverted; https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansur_Ahmad_Saad_al-Dayfi&diff=prev&oldid=938937902 was not; and it removed the information about he was imprisoned at Guantanamo. Suntzu3500 (talk) 16:57, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I see. That Telegraph article is paywalled for me. I suggest adding it if you have access, but recommend taking care that there is an RS tying the listed alias to al-Dayfi. Given nature as a Biographies of living persons, probably good to also add a source noting that no charges from the US government resulted. JArthur1984 (talk) 17:23, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I also don't have access to the underlying article, and I share concerns on a RS for the alias tie. I also don't think the way it was formatted was the most helpful / encyclopedic; and with this being a living person biography, I don't want to just revert this one.
 * At the same time, I think the article is pretty one-sided (I can't think of any article on someone who's most notable experience was being locked up by a government that didn't include the circumstances or allegations of why). Some of the citations are to opinion or editorial pieces written by the subject of the article, and we have the admitted subject of the article directly removing non-one sided information (albeit not the highest quality information)
 * This isn't my area of expertise, unfortunately, but it raises both COI and NPOV issues that will probably not be resolved until someone steps in who does know the area. Suntzu3500 (talk) 15:30, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This NYT resource might be a better source. Suntzu3500 (talk) 15:37, 31 May 2023 (UTC)