Talk:Mariinsky Theatre

Sanctions
Is it under US and EU sanctions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A45E:72A7:1:DABB:C1FF:FEAC:7283 (talk) 17:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

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I would add section called like "Events schedule". Mariinsky announce their schedule in 2-3 months before the events, so it will be very helpful to know their schedule rules if you plan to visit the theatre during your trip to Russia. E.g. a lot of travelers to Russia in August are unpleasently suprized that there is no way to see the theatre performance or even visit the building during this month.

Vacation time is usually from last week of July, during all of the August and till 2nd half of September. During this time no events are performed and theatre building itself is closed. Except this vacation time, theatre is open all the year round.

There are almost daily evening performances at the Mariinsky Theatre main stage (either ballet or opera) and 3-4 times per week evening performances at the Mariinsky Concert Hall (either classical concert or opera-in-concert). Usually evening performances start at 7 pm, but sometimes may also start at 6 pm or 8 pm. In addition, sometimes there are morning or daytime performances as well, that can start either at 12 am, or at 2 pm or at 4 pm. Morning performances usually hold on Sundays, as a rule it is classical ballet or opera. Except summer time (May-July), usually there are no events on Mondays. Also 1st of January is a day off for the theatre.

After it was destroyed by fire it was restored as the Mariinsky Theatre its history is usualy bulked to the Mariinsky theater. lets merge abakharev 14:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I concur. --Ghirla | talk 09:39, 13 February 2006 (UTC

Actually the Mariinksy Theatre and the St. Petersburg Bolshoi Kammeny are 2 seperate theatres.

The site where the current St. Petersburg conservatory is today is where the Bolshoi Kammeny once stood. It was remodeled into the conservatory, sections of the original building were utilized for the conservatory (for example the main stair case). The original building of the Bolshoi was never destroyed by fire.

Originally the site where the Mariinksy is today was a building that housed the circus, as well as the Italian Opera. Thiswas the building that burned down, and subsequently the Mariinksy was built in its place, designed by the grandfather of Alexander Benois.

Alot if historicle sources, etc. have this history very much confused, similar to many historians stating that Minkus' first ballet was "Paquita", scored jointly with Deldevez.


 * Yes, I know that the theters were in the different locations (as a matter of fact it was me who put the info about the location on the article about the Bolshoi Kammeny Theater. A theater is more than a building, it is people, traditions, etc. They passed from the Kammeny to Mariinsky. That is why, the history of the theters are usually put together. E.g. in Mariinsky Theatre the passage: The Imperial opera and ballet theatre was established in 1783 on behest of Catherine the Great. is related to the Bolshoy Kamenny Theater. There was nothing related to Opera or Ballet on the place of Mariinsky in the 18th century, etc. The same way the history of the theaters is merged in the history display of the Mariinsky itself (or at least was displayed before I left Russia). Thus, I am for merging. If we would keep the articles separate we need to refer St. Petersburg Imperial Bolshoi Kammeny Theatre, referred in the Mariinsky theater article, as part of the story told there is not about the Mariinsky. abakharev 06:34, 14 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree with Alex here. --Ghirla | talk 08:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I plan on writing an article on the Bolshoi Kammeny. I have some pictures of it as well. Adam
 * You may add the picture and data to the Mariinka article. Why not? --Ghirla | talk 07:38, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


 * After finding a reference to on the Verdi page to the premiere of "La forza del destino" taking place in the "Imperial Theatre" in Saint Petersburg, I found that the link went nowhere, so created a link to the Mariinsky.

However, prior to reading the above, I went to various texts to see what the source of all this is was, and I found the following:

Budden, Vol. 2,(paperback), notes on page 427 a letter to the composer asking "would Verdi consider a commission from the Imperial Theatre of St Petersburg".

Phillips-Matz, page 439, says "a proposal from the Imperial Theatre" was sent to Verdi in December 1860.

NOW - Budden gives the first performance as: "Bolshoi Theatre on 10 November 1862" (p.426), whereas Phillips-Matz states in the Appendix: "premiere at Imperial Theatre", same date as Budden, (page 893).

THEN - I looked at Thierry Beauvert's Operas Houses of the World  and he refers to the "Bolshoi Theatre" constructed in 1783, rebuilt in 1817 after a fire; then later to the 1855 Circus Theatre which burnt down and was reconstructed by Cavos (sic) as the Mariinsky. (page 68). But he states (page 72) that the world premiere of Forza "was a work commissioned for the Maryinsky" (sic).

SO - -Can we assume that the "Bolshoi" is the same as the "Imperial"??? -Was Verdi's opera really written for the Mariinski? -Surely a notation that the "Circus" Theatre was on the original site of the Mariinsky and it was the one which burnt down is in order?? PS: books named above are referenced in the Verdi article, plus the Beauvert is on the Opera houses page.

I certainly think that a separate article is fine, but that the Mariinski one should include a more explicit reference to how it came into being.

Vivaverdi 19:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

OUTDATED
The article states "...expected to begin in Autumn 2006." Folks, that's a long time ago. Either it "was expected to begin in autumn 2006" or it "began in autumn 2006." The following two articles might help in a re-write.

Tuesday, January 23, 2007. Issue 3580. Page 8. Mariinsky Not Going as Planned The Moscow Times ST. PETERSBURG -- The government has suspended its contract with French architect Dominique Perrault to plan and construct a new building for the Mariinsky Theater over fears that his firm could fail to deliver the project on time.

Issue #1226 (92), Friday, December 1, 2006 St. Pete Times Mariinsky Theater Opens New Concert Hall By Galina Stolyarova Staff Writer Valery Gergiev, the indefatigable artistic director of the Mariinsky Theater, was triumphant on Wednesday at the inauguration of the theater's brand-new, state-of-the-art concert hall, located in the company's former warehouse on Ulitsa Pisareva, a few hundred meters from the historical building. Kdammers 09:03, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Tsar's box and Mariinsky Concert Hall
A couple of things:


 * Surely the image captioned Tsar's box is not the Tsar's box. The box shown is adjacent to the stage, whereas what I'm fairly sure is the Tsar's box is behind the stalls in the centre, rising all the way up to the top balcony.  There's a picture of the auditorium that shows this on the Mariinsky Theatre page in the Russian Wikipedia.
 * Look at a picture. Tsar's box is in the middle, seats are allocated by red colour--Andrey! 14:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's what I thought. It has a sort of crown on top, whereas the box pictured in the article doesn't.  However, I found a discussion here which sort of complicates things. --GuillaumeTell 21:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Just realized this edit (three years after the fact!) ... As a historian of ballet in Tsarist St. Petersburg, I can assure you that the photo I uploaded and captioned certainly shows where the Imperial family sat for regular performances in the theatre. They only sat in the Center balcony (the one shown in the link above) on state occasions. All contemporary accounts confirm this - when the Imperial family attended performances they sat in the box to the left of the stage . Also, ballettalk.com is not teh best place for information of this kind. --Mrlopez2681 (talk) 16:16, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I see that the navbox at the bottom of this article has a red link for the Mariinsky Concert Hall. I don't know much Russian, but I could create a stub for it based on the English description on the Mariinsky Theatre's website.  Of course, I don't want to do this if anyone is already working on an article (e.g. by translating this).  Incidentally, the Concert Hall does perform staged opera as well as concerts - I saw a very enjoyable Magic Flute there earlier this year. --GuillaumeTell 21:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Template I have created, to write article yet I do not plan. If you can write - it will be very good.--Andrey! 14:17, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd certanly encourage the creation of an article on the Concert Hall. Thanks for offering. Viva-Verdi (talk) 15:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. I'll be around for a few weeks and see what I can do. --GuillaumeTell 21:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

any info on Telyakovski ?
He was the director of all the Imperial theatres of Russia before the WW I ,and of Mariinsky. I am reading now the letter from Stanislavsky to Isadora Duncan ,dated 1908,about Telyakovski,whom he adviced her to meet to get funds for her school.Edelward (talk) 12:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Marian back to Mariinsky
I fully support the edit which returns this article to the Mariinsky name. Viva-Verdi (talk) 08:44, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

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Seating capacity
Does anyone know the seating capacity of the current Mariinsky I theatre? I read 1,625 when it opened in 1860, but I don't know if it has 1,625 seats right now in 2023. Nivent2007 (talk) 19:04, 23 November 2023 (UTC)