Talk:Marilinda Garcia

Boston Globe subscription anyone?
I see this article talking about a "Marilinda Garcia" born in early 1983. It's probably the subject of this article. Does anyone have a subscription to this? I want to see if she was a January 1 baby. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:28, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

DOB
The Union Leader source says she's 30 years old. That ties in with the source that said she was 23 when elected to the NH House in 2006, and the Boston Globe article in the above section. But, the Salem Patch profile says January 1, 1986. It seems they made a mistake. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:12, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Obamacare/Affordable Care Act
In a recent interview quoted in this version of the page, Ms. Garcia, whose jobs do not offer health insurance, declined to answer in a major media interview how she has obtained coverage. Given that she is adamant about dismantling Obamacare, this seems relevant to this page and to her seemingly contrary position, and this information is included with the reference. An anonymous editor is deleting this addition. Can we get a Wiki opinion on this news? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acham (talk • contribs) 23:26, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

In a subsequent interview (http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140914/NEWS06/140919546), Ms. Garcia stated that she has short-term insurance that is out of the ACA network. I'm not sure why the editors deleted that edit.Minority Reporters (talk) 14:22, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Is the Article Neutral?
This entire article seems like it is a political ad for her, there is no mention of a voting record, her veiws on abortion are absent and the Affordable Care Act is refered to as Obamacare. Obamacare is a popular public name, not the law's proper legal one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.0.18.140 (talk) 15:04, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I see the article does also use the full name for the ACA. Do you have any suggestions that would bring this article into better "balance"? – Muboshgu (talk) 15:37, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Plagiarism story
The Huffington Post published an article (GOP House Candidate Marilinda Garcia Plagiarized Parts Of Floor Speech On Same-Sex Marriage) this morning stating that Garcia took parts of a speech in opposition to same-sex marriage that she delivered to the New Hampshire Senate from a National Review editorial. This seems like timely information, given that she's in the last two weeks of a competitive race for a US House seat. I thought I would start a discussion here, rather than dive right into adding the allegations to her bio. Anyone have any thoughts about how to present this information? It doesn't seem to fit in to any of the existing major sections. For context, the Biden page discusses his plagiarism problems in the Early Life and Education section, and then again in the 1988 Presidential Campaign section. Rks13 (talk) 21:15, 23 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't believe it's necessary to list every publication that accuses her of plagiarism. So I've attempted to consolidate them here.CFredkin (talk) 20:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


 * That is already in the article, at Marilinda_Garcia -  Cwobeel   (talk)  20:51, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


 * The Huffington Post is a partisan source, I don't believe it belongs in the article. Minority Reporters (talk) 14:21, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Every source has its biases. The facts published by HuffPo ( the first commercially run digital media enterprise to win a Pulitzer Prize) has been picked  by other sources as well, so there is no issue here. -   Cwobeel   (talk)  14:44, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * We have no requirement for sources of factual information to be neutral; all they have to be is reliable. Commentary, of course, is a very different ball game. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:34, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * That was part of the reason I wrote that section the way that I did - the section reports that Granite State Progress, a partisan organization and opponent of Garcia's, published claims of plagiarism. The section doesn't accept those claims, but reports them. The claims clearly meet the standard of being notable enough to include, and by citing the source, the reader can evaluate the facts. The section then reports that at least three other note-worthy news organizations, one national but perhaps partisan (Huffigton Post) and two major local news outlets (Boston.com/Boston Globe and Concord Monitor), reported the story and raised the issue of plagiarism. Again, the section doesn't state that the actions were plagiarism, only that several note-worthy organizations reported the story that way. By listing them specifically, readers can evaluate the actions, and the news reporting of it, for themselves. Rks13 (talk) 15:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It was plagiarism, she apologized, so that's about it. We just report these facts. -  Cwobeel   (talk)  15:43, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

The accusations of plagiarism have been reported in sources, and Garcia responded to these accusations by apologizing. We need to report both facts, not just the apology. -  Cwobeel   (talk)  16:11, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * can you clarify your reasons for deleting the material which is sourced to WP:RS? -  Cwobeel   (talk)  17:10, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 * The language he removed, which I had also previously removed, was unencyclopedic POV pushing that did not accurately reflect the cited sources. The Concord Monitor article merely reported that Garcia was accused of plagiarism by Granite State; we already have that in the article and at most all that's required is to add this source to the footnotes substantiating the accusation.  The other Boston.com blog piece, likewise, merely repeats that Granite State accusation and does not saying anything about whether it is legitimate.  It's a puff piece which tells the reader "you decide" — not an opinion, not analysis.  All it does is substantiate that Granite State made this accusation, which the article already says. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS)   (talk)  (contribs) 17:28, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * So, now the article does not even mention "plagiarism". Do you think that the article now is reflecting the facts as reported? These are the headlines:
 * Whoops: Did a New Hampshire Congressional Candidate Plagiarize a Speech on Gay Marriage
 * Congressional Candidate Marilinda Garcia (NH-02) Caught Plagiarizing Major Floor Speech
 * Republican congressional candidate Marilinda Garcia accused of plagiarizing parts of two speeches
 * -  Cwobeel   (talk)  17:35, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was accurate even without the word, but in any case it's an easy fix which I have just performed — adding the key word "plagiarized" and cleaning up the prose a bit (IMO). Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS)  (talk)  (contribs) 17:42, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -  Cwobeel   (talk)  18:55, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

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