Talk:Maroon 5/Archive 2

Maroon 5 near the end?
| Check this out. -- Lara Love Talk / Contribs  02:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Broken link. ― LADY GALAXY ★彡 Refill/lol 04:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Try now I screwed it up with a |. - Lara Love Talk / Contribs  05:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC) PS. You can also Google "Levine contemplates the end of Maroon 5" for several websites.
 * | Look at this interview Jesse also says teh group won't be around for long!! Awwww!! Crazilazigurl07   talk  21:05, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Maroon5Promotional.jpg is inappropriate
According to WP:ICT, "For an image to be considered "free" under Wikipedia's Image use policy, the license must permit both commercial reuse and derivative works." In the case of living persons, it is possible to obtain a free-use image, as was the image in place previous to this one. WP:FU states that an examples of unacceptable use includes "An image of a living person that merely shows what s/he looks like. The rationale is that this is potentially replaceable with a freshly produced free photograph." Free use images of all members of the band together can easily be obtained. This image is inappropriate for use on Wikipedia. -- Lara Love T / C  17:31, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This image was listed WP:PUI, but, because it is licensed as a non-free copyrighted image with a fair use rationale, action could not be taken there. It is now listed WP:FUR. Lara Love  T / C  18:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Mickey and James switched in caption
You've got Mickey Madden and James Valentine mixed up in your photo description. Needs to be changed. (BC) 21 May 2007.
 * Actually, they were switched earlier. Someone corrected it this morning, I believe. Mickey is on the left, James on the right. -- Lara Love T / C  19:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Soft Rock

 * The following manually signed comments have been posted by User:DLA75|Talk|Contribs.

If is Maroon 5 is not Soft Rock what is? They should be categorized as soft rock as a Genre. please explain why they are not soft rock? Can Soft Rock be added? DLA75 02:48, May 31, 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe you should read Soft rock and familiarize yourself with it. The articles reads, "Soft rock is usually sung with higher-pitched vocals, and the lyrics tend to be non-confrontational, focusing in very general language on themes like love, everyday life and relationships. The genre tends to make heavy use of pianos, synthesizers and sometimes saxophones."


 * Just because Adam tends to sing in a higher-pitch about love and relationships does not make M5 soft rock.
 * The lyrics are confrontational, in many instances, they do not focus in general language.
 * M5 uses a keyboard, not a piano (think of Coldplay and Keane), no synthesizers, and no saxes.


 * There may be a song or two that gets some airtime on a soft rock station, "This Love" and "Sunday Morning", maybe, but the band is not soft rock. Regards, Lara Love  T / C  16:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

For example if Chicago is listed as soft rock so should be Marroon 5. DLA75 20:30, June 10, 2007


 * Chicago and Maroon 5 are very different. Lara Love  T / C  05:03, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Journey is listed as soft rock. Maroon 5's sound is much sofer then Journey's. Styx is listed as soft rock. Maroon 5's sound is also sofer then Styx. If Journey is soft rock ans Styx is soft rock so is Maroon 5.DLA75 19:53, June 11, 2007


 * Maroon 5 is not softer than Journey. There may be a couple softer songs, but they are not a soft rock band. Journey isn't really a soft rock band either. They're rock, arena rock. Soft rock as a possible sub-genre. Too many people think that if a band has even one song that falls into a particular genre, that band then needs to list that as their genre. No band should have five or six genres listed. That's ridiculous. Journey (band), for example, lists six genres, including both soft rock and hard rock. Let's be real... something is messed up there. And I really don't see how Journey can be listed as hard rock, but whatever... whole other debate there.


 * The soft rock article even goes into explaining how soft rock is a genre from the 70s that has evolved into Adult Contemporary since the 80s. So, if anything, the argument would be that they are adult contemporary, which they still are not. Things would be so much more simple if WP articles listed what the record labels listed on the albums. Would avoid so much grief and save so much time. Instead, everyone wants every genre possible listed, even creating their own genres and listing them, for what? I don't get it. Lara Love  T / C  04:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Maroon 5 is not Adult Contemporary because you said so. They are in fact very Adult Contemporary and thereby Soft Rock and have not gotten any airplay of any songs that prove otherwise. The sound of Maroon 5 is centerd around Adam's voice the rest of the band takes a backseat witch is more a trademark of AC and not rock or funk. In the future I see old Maroon 5 music almost exclusively being played by AC stations just like Bread and Air Supply before them. How are they not softer them Journey or Styx who in their day had a lot of airplay play on AOR & Rock station who are very unlikely to play Maroon 5.DLA75 3:30, June 19, 2007 (UTC)

Marron 5 is soft rock in my mind and if you disagree with that genre you will need a consensus if you think that is inaccurate. .DLA75 19:57, June 24, 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't need a consensus. I don't understand where you are going with this. Nothing published by the band or their label says anything close to soft rock or AC. If you want to add it, it would appear that you would need consensus. Lara Love  T / C  03:47, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

No band that has been classified soft rock on wikipedia as soft rock including Chicago, Styx and Journey have ever called called soft rock in their publicity they put out or by their record companies. If you feel so strongly about this why don't fix the wikipedia pages for all these bands taking down soft rock from all of them. DLA75 12:00, June 25, 2007 (UTC)
 * Because I'm not a custodian of any of those bands. The majority of band articles I have seen have inaccurate genres listed. Many have active disputes such as this one. The band articles for which I am a custodian do not and will not have a listing for every such genre vaguely represented by a song or two. The band and their music, as a whole, do not fall under the description of Soft rock, therefore, it is not an appropriate genre to list here. Lara Love  T / C  18:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Maroon 5 is not soft rock. Have you heard Harder to Breathe, Makes Me Wonder, Wake Up Call, these aren't soft rock songs. I am sorry you are wrong - if you want to have a concensus go right ahead, lets vote, you will not get many people to agree with you. 74.204.40.46 09:10, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * "Soft rock, also referred to as light rock or easy rock, is a style of music which uses the techniques of rock and roll to compose a softer, supposedly more ear-pleasing sound for listening, often at work or when driving. Soft rock is usually sung with higher-pitched vocals, and the lyrics tend to be non-confrontational, focusing in very general language on themes like love, everyday life and relationships. The genre tends to make heavy use of pianos, synthesizers and sometimes saxophones."


 * So, basically, Maroon 5 does fit into this genre. I'm also open to Pop Rock and Soul Rock, but they're definetly not funk. BreakerLOLZ 04:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Reading the entire discussion before commenting would be appreciated, as would signing your posts (four tildes "~"). As noted above, where I quoted the exact same text as you, it is explained why, despite the fact that Levine sings in a higher pitched voice about love and relationships, Maroon 5 does not fit the Soft Rock description. Justin Timberlake sings in a high pitched voice about love and relationships. Is he considered Soft Rock? I think not. Lara Love  T / C  12:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, see the probelm with your JT argument is that he is a pop artist, and lacks the sound of rock nor is he what some may call an "easy listening" artist. I understand that Maroon 5 can be somewhat hard at some times, but the majority of their songs is pretty soft. Aside from Soft Rock, I see that Maroon 5 is a "soul-influenced rock band". Wouldn't this make them a Soul Rock band? As for the signing my posts, sorry, that was my bad. BreakerLOLZ 04:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Infobox musical artist states for the genre field, "The genre or genres of music performed by the act. Aim for generality (e.g. Hip hop rather than East Coast hip hop)." So, in the case of Maroon 5, they would be classified in their most basic genres; "Pop", "Rock", and "Alternative". These are the most common, general genres. More specific terms are already included in the article. If you find reliable sources that refer to Maroon 5 as soft rock (not their songs specifically, but the band as a whole), then add it with the reference (correctly formatted, if you don't mind). If you find sources that assert that specific songs are soft rock, then they can go in the article for those songs. Regards, Lara Love  T / C  06:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Mickey Madden and other bandmates
how can i make a page for Mickey and Jesse. I have enough info on them for them to have there own page. I dont think its fair that Adam Levine has his own and not the others. i helped with the Matt Flynn page if you need to see my work Crazilazigurl07 20:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)