Talk:Martin Crane

Birthplace
Someone has changed Mahoney's birthplace to Blackpool|Lancashire. In an interview in one of the DVDEs he says "Manchester." Exploding Boy 16:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

army unit
when it says that he meets with both members of his army unit, I assume this means both remaining members? If so, it would help to add that.
 * No, it's both army and police colleagues?--MartinUK 19:51, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Marty's religion
Their were references to The Episcopal Church in Cheers, when Frasier is councelling Woody concerning He and his girlfriends religious differences, Frasier mentions that He is an Episcopalian. In "Frasier" Frasier asks Niles if He feels like a "little Italian". Niles retorts that He is having lunch with wife, Maris, and therefore is having "a little Episcopalian"! In a later episode, Niles and Frasier are trying to get Marty drunk enough to agree to go out with Dapne's mother, keeping her distracted for an evening. They establish as the meaure of his innebriation, reference to Saint Bartholemew's Church, which, when Marty is finally innebriate enough, refers to as "Saint Bartholelemew's", and how shocked "the Minister looked" when He saw a pregnant Hester coming down the aisle. Well, in the Episcopal Church it is common for a clergyperson to be refered to as either a Priest, as in the high church Anglican/Episcopal, or a Minister, in the low Church, a categorically broad generic term. The Book of Common Prayer of 1928 and all the way back to 1548, in its rubrics, uses the term "minister" to denote any officiant of a liturgical service. e.g. The Minister of Holy Communion is a Priest, whereas the minister of Daily Morning and Evening Prayer might be a lay person. Finally, Saint Bartholemew's Episcopal Church is a well known Parish Church of New York City High Society--the social orientation we have come to expect of the Crane family---perhaps a literary liscense devise, transferred to Seattle---to complete an image. I postulate that if indeed the Cranes have a religion, then it seems logical that they are Episcopalians...at least at Christmas, Thanksgiving, and Eastertide.68.12.158.52 (talk) 03:05, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Martin's beer is not Ballantine, it's a fictional Valentine, the subtitles state it clearly, and Frasier once thinks that when Martin says his first Valentine he was talking about a card from Hester Crane, but actually it was an old beer can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.170.72.23 (talk) 23:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Right, because subtitles are a completely infallible source for fact-checking. Trust me, as someone who has seen every episode of Frasier multiple times, the name of Martin's beer is indeed Ballantine. (Freewill)

Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress which affects this page. Please participate at Talk:Martin Crane (Roman Catholic bishop) - Requested move and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 22:21, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Martin's brother
I have removed the line stating "However, it could be implied Martin said that ["I never had a brother"] because the two were not on good terms." This smacks of weasel words and/or original research. As nothing specific was ever mentioned in the script to address this discrepancy (such as when Frasier stating Martin was dead in an episode of Cheers was explained as a lie following a family row) it was just that - a continuity discrepancy. Smurfmeister (talk) 16:13, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Useless article
It's hard to believe that this article even exists in Wikipedia. I have seen important political and religious information get deleted from Wikipedia because editors didn't like it, and yet a fictional character (from TV no less, not even from literature) has its own article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.185.65 (talk) 03:51, 23 May 2021 (UTC)