Talk:Maskwacis

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I don't know how to do this myself, and would appreciate some help.

When I typed "Hobbema" I was taken directly to Hobbema, Alberta. Of course I was looking for Hobbema the painter. Since the location in Alberta is just a tiny hamlet, while the painter is well-known and widely admired, I would think search should go directly to Meindert Hobbema the painter. Seems like a disambiguation page would be helpful, too.

The way it is now, someone who wants to read about Hobbema the painter can't find the page. There is no link from the Hobemma, Alberta page. (Of course you could go out of Wikipedia to Google, and type "Hobbema" in Google, and find the Wikipedia article there.)

Thanks, Paugus (talk) 20:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for pointing this out. I (and apparently some other editors as well) was unaware of Meindert Hobbema. I have changed the article Hobbema into a disambiguation page with links to both meanings. Indefatigable (talk) 19:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Census data
I'm confused by the census data - stating there are no people and no residences there. This can't be true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.219.37 (talk) 16:56, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yep, it is confusing, but is what the 2011 census reports. Perhaps StatCan can explain. Hwy43 (talk) 05:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Article title
With no other use of Maskwacis, shouldn't the article be located at that title? 117Avenue (talk) 22:43, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. I would not oppose. Hwy43 (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

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Plans for an article overhaul
Maskwacis is the largest First Nations community in Alberta - but one could be forgiven for thinking otherwise, since the page's current infobox puts the community's population at 60. (When combined with an article text devoting a couple sentences to child gang violence, the effect is somewhat incongruous.)

This isn't anybody's fault - it's perfectly true that the unincorporated community of Hobbema recorded a population of 60 in the 2016 Canadian census. But the community at large has an unusual structure, where a tiny scrap of Ponoka County is surrounded by four large Indian reserves. Because Indian reserves are a federal concern, and the tranquil farm country surrounding them is a provincial concern, the conurbation at Maskwacis (which occupies both) is an area of jurisdictional conflict. So the federal census happily counts the 60 residents of off-reserve "Hobbema" (the name change having not percolated to Ottawa), while all four surrounding First Nations governments describe themselves as being part of the Maskwacis community. Add up the latter, and you arrive at a more accurate community size of 8,000. (And this isn't counting registered band members who were living elsewhere at the time of the census, which adds yet further thousands.)

Being a major community of interest within Alberta, I'd like to do a lot of work on this article. I've started by generating a couple unique maps for it and have tried to make some of these demographic facts more apparent during an initial skim-through.

Awmcphee (talk) 06:05, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


 * One solution is splitting the article into two. Maskwacis becomes the article about the First Nations community and Maskwacis (hamlet) for the tiny off-reserve portion. Hwy43 (talk) 06:15, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Alternately, emulate the approach at Fort McKay. Hwy43 (talk) 06:18, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


 * do you have a reliable secondary source that confirms outright that the community of Maskwacis is the sum of all four sets of reserves? Looking at Google Earth, the community itself appears to have a footprint of six quarter sections on Highway 2A between both segments of Highway 611. We cannot confer in this article that Maskwacis is the sum of the entire footprints of all four sets or reserves without such a reference. Further, we cannot have unsourced population counts in this article per WP:CANPOP. Hwy43 (talk) 18:29, 17 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Also, until such time as the geographic extent of Maskwacis can be confirmed, please instead place a hollow circle on the maps of sufficient size to encircle the core of the Maskwacis community (i.e. the Ermineskin and Samson portions and the hamlet). Hwy43 (talk) 18:55, 17 August 2019 (UTC)