Talk:Matricaria chamomilla

Info box picture
I went ahead and changed the picture in the info box. In the gallery was a picture that is not only featured on Wikipedia and Wikimedia commons, but was picture of the day in no less than two languages and Wikimedia Commons, and is even the picture in the template for all of WikiProject plants and the stub template for its family, but for some reason, was not even the info box picture for its own article.

I fixed that, and it looks much better, in my opinion.

--The Human Spellchecker (talk) 05:58, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

The current info box picture depicts Roman Chamomile, not German Chamomile, as distinguished by the leaf type. Could someone please change it to a Wikimedia approved photo of German Chamomile? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:140D:C07D:D4DB:FC34:9098:1FA3 (talk) 02:21, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Capitalization
Should the name be capitalized as "German Chamomile", or should the 'c' be lower-case? - Brian Kendig 06:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
 * See the guidelines of WP:TOL and its talk page. JoJan 07:57, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Let me clarify my question. Is there a reason why the name of this article, and the name as given in the article itself, is capitalized as "German Chamomile"? Is "German Chamomile" a proper noun for some reason? I'm just making sure before I change "chamomile" to lower case. - Brian Kendig 13:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
 * This has been discussed over and over in the last few years; see discussions in the archives of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life. It has been agreed upon to keep common names capitalized for plants. However newcomers sometimes tend not to follow this rule as they are unaware of past discussions. Therefore I would recommend to keep the name capitalized. JoJan 14:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Gotcha - thanks. I'm editing this article to make the capitalization consistent, and I'm also fixing the capitalization of Roman chamomile. - Brian Kendig 17:05, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

More information?
Could someone maybe research what in chamomile causes the sleepiness/stomach relief? -Metakraid 01:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, it seems like some of the statements in this article conflict (or seem to come to different conclusion) with the statements made in the general chamomile article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamomile

Specifically: Of the dozens of traditional claims listed, this database explicitly lists only fifteen conditions in which any animal or human scientific testing has ever been done. Of these fifteen, the NIH also rated the scientific conclusions on fourteen as having "unclear scientific evidence" to recommend either for or against the use of chamomile as a treatment for such conditions (cardiovascular conditions, common cold, diarrhea in children, eczema, gastrointestinal conditions, hemorrhagic cystitis, hemorrhoids, infantile colic, mucositis from cancer treatment, quality of life in cancer patients, open penile sores, skin inflammation, sleep aid, vaginitis, and wound healing). It also ranked one negatively, as having "fair scientific evidence against" such a use (post-operative sore throat/hoarseness due to intubation). In short, according to these two agencies, there remains insufficient scientific evidence to produce a medical recommendation for any medicinal or therapeutic use of chamomile in extract, ointment or infusion form.

this leaves a different impressions than the "herbalism" section of this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.19.169 (talk) 08:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Move
This article needs moved to its scientific name, Matricaria recutita, the policy for plant articles on Wikipedia. However, it's impossible to follow what is going on, and with the scientific name already an improper redirect to its common name this requires administrative action. --Blechnic (talk) 06:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Requested move
Technically this is a non-controversial move, but with all the admins and all the reversions of CarolSpears' attempt to create this article under its scientific name, it probably has to go this way. WP:Plants policy is that plants go under scientific names. There's no reason for this to be an exception unless this article is entirely about its non-plant, in which case, Carol was right to create one under the other name, and the copyvio material should have been removed, and at least the taxobox retained. When I post a copyvio notice, I try to create a stub that can be used to create the article--it's simple and the instructions are on the copyvio page, and in the notice posted on the page with the tag. --Blechnic (talk) 07:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Blue?
Anyone know why it is called Blue Chamomile, when it doesn't appear to be blue from the pictures or description.--Ericjs (talk) 06:14, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved per request. - GTBacchus(talk) 06:52, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Matricaria recutita → Matricaria chamomilla — M. chamomilla is the correct name according to ITIS and Wikispecies!!. Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 16:14, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

"Pineapple Weed" ?
The Etymology section states "Common names include ... pineapple weed (referring to the shape of the inflorescences) ...". Is this true? My UK reference books say Pineapple Weed is the common name for Chamomila suaveolens (synonym Matricaria matricarioides), which, unlike M.chamomilla, does have flowers which could fancifully be likened to miniature pineapples and also has a pineapple scent. Is M.chamomilla known as Pineapple Weed elsewhere in the anglophone world? I will remove the name from the article unless someone objects.Newburyjohn (talk) 13:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

No objections, so edit done Newburyjohn (talk) 22:21, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

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Modern Research section seems questionable
It makes some pretty grand claims for chamomile. This struck me as a bit odd since scientists don't usually rave about common herbs and call them "stars." So I followed the link.

Well, it's apparently not scientists who call it a "star." So I flagged that part.

As for the rest, the source just doesn't seem...scientific? It seems like more of a cultural and historical survey of the plant. Such pieces often appear in peer-reviewed journals but shouldn't be mistaken for double blind studies, which are needed to verify medicinal claims. 2603:7081:1603:A300:2CD3:518:C971:6DB3 (talk) 14:34, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * It has no medicinal effects supported by WP:MEDRS sources, as revised with this edit. The correct perspective of insufficient medical research is given in the NIH brief review. Zefr (talk) 15:38, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Major addition on 1 December 2019
On 1 December 2019, user LeJuk made their only edit in article space, which was to this article. (The other 77 credited edits were all in their user sandbox, and apparently all of those were steps in preparing this major addition.) In my opinion, it is good quality work, but I believe it turned large parts of the article into an instruction manual for chamomile farming, rather than information about the plant. This includes such things as precise instructions for fertilizer application, recommended crop rotation strategies, and so on.

Is there any objection to my plan to remove all of the farming instructions? TooManyFingers (talk) 16:30, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Agree. Per WP:NOTHOWTO, the Cultivation section should be significantly trimmed and better sourced with WP:RS, if available. There are also numerous duplicate wikilinks. Zefr (talk) 16:41, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have just cut the Cultivation section way down. I can't be sure I've made all the right changes, but IMO it's an improvement. TooManyFingers (talk) 22:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Good work. Meets WP:NOTEVERYTHING and WP:TLDR, i.e., "less is more". Zefr (talk) 14:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)