Talk:Maximum the Hormone

New album 2013
No one is going to update this? It has been confirmed already, the new album, "予襲復讐" (Arakajime Shuu Fukushuu/I Hit Revenge) is going out July 31th, it had a teaser video up in a secret section of the official website (possible names for the teaser song: A-li-en, Stop Winny Upload). You can check out the Maximum the Hormone Fanwebsite on Facebook for more details. 190.23.141.39 (talk) 22:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC)Slade

Infobox
Anybody know the years active, origin, or past members? I'm also unsure about their current label (website lists as Nippon, where a myspace fan page lists them as VAP). Ambrosia- 07:52, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Koi no Mega Lover
I fixed an issue with a song title; it said "Koi no Mega roba", and thats incorrect; the proper title of the song is "Koi no Mega Lover". "Roba" is an "engrish" title based off of how the word sounds, but is incorrect. Its the same as having a name "Albert" be written as "Aruburuto".


 * But many words are actually meant to be spelt in 'engrish'. Lifeisagame247 22:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

you are missing a lot of their songs, for example, "what's up people" is missing, and so are a few more, the problem is i can't remember the names of the songs anyway, so im hopeing someone can add them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.64.136.175 (talk • contribs)

Missing anime song?
I don't see any mention of the "Rolling" song (don't know the album or actual name) used as an extro in the 2003-2004 anime Air Master. I believe they might also be responsible for the intro song of the series.

67.164.125.251 10:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * This was the first time I heard of them myself.


 * Oh, I will add it as soon as I get a chance. I added it to the Rokkinpo Goroshi page, but I forgot to place it here. They are only credited with the ending song, the opening is by another artist. Thanks for the reminder! --Jake 20:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I also noticed that "The World" (Death note season 1 opening theme) isn't on here either. Maximum the hormone does sing it right? I haven't been able to find it listed on any album's... 24.78.224.106 (talk) 07:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC) (CanadaAotS is 2lazy2login)


 * The song "The World" along with "Anima" (アニマ), the show ending, are performed by Nightmare. They can be found on the single, "The World", or on the album The World Ruler. I hope this helps clarify. --Jacob Talk 21:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

=contradiction=

there's a contradiction in the daisuke page which says he was not one of the initial members but this page says he is

Not Visual Kei
Why is Maximum the Hormone linked to on the list of visual kei bands? Maximum the Hormone is most assuredly NOT visual kei. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.147.228.234 (talk) 18:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the notice, I've removed them from the list of visual kei bands. Someone just made a minor error. --Jacob Talk 20:22, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Even though it's been fixed, and fixed awhile ago, it was probably because the person had seen the music video for Zetsubou Billy and thought that the band in the beginning was them.OrangeRorange (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Expiramental Hardcore?
Ive noticed that the two genres for this band are listed as "rock/metal". I beleive that this should be updated. In many of their songs, such as "Buiiki Kaesu!" they clearly domonstrate expiramental qualities.

Next, in songs such as "whats up people!", hardcore is heavily emphasized. I beleive that the music genre section should be updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.61.166 (talk) 22:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Mind finding some sources on that? --Jacob Talk 00:25, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

lol Rock/Metal! thats leik the most generic label for a band leik dem. it should be j-rock/alt metal/post-punk --SKiPMacD (talk) 17:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, Rock/Metal is intentionally generic, because any further labeling would be quite difficult, seeing as we have no sources, and given their broad genre-skipping music. As far as your suggestions, J-Rock is not a genre, but a classification of rock artists from Japan, Alternative metal would need a source, though I can see putting that in without one, and post-punk is also very generic, as it covers most alternative forms of music following the punk rock movement with any punk influence. Citations will take you much further than crude, brief, unsupported statements. --Jacob Talk 17:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Does anybody else think that they fall under the Nu Metal category? Though I'm not sure what the difference between Nu Metal and Rapcore/Rapmetal is.

- Fumbingehmer


 * I'd say, while they do have a degree of rapping, it's not so much like the rap-metal genre, as the music doesn't have much strong influence from hip-hop, it just has a heavy rhyme to it. Again, sourcing is really nice, if you can dig some sources up. :-) --Jacob Talk 00:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Someone listed them as Nu-Metal and Punk and the part up the top says "Maximum the Hormone (マキシマムザホルモン, Makishimamu Za Horumon?) is a four-member Japanese nu metal band." That is hardly fitting for a band as diverse as MTH. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.193.126 (talk) 10:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Listen to No Use For A Name (first and second album) and you will understand why they are an experimental punk hardcore band... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.111.15.14 (talk) 15:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * All the points made regarding genre definition are - and I say this in the least confronting way possible - lacking a vital insight and justification, not to mention a certain lack of credibility made clear by many users [The inability to spell the genre correctly when attempting to classify is not the makings of a convincing point] throughout this discussion. The current classification seems to sit as 'metal', which is unfortunate as this is the least applicable of all the ideas being brought to the table. As many have mentioned, Punk is an immediate option due to the fast-paced reggae nature of most of the songs, and at moments even exemplifying a ska-esque style of music. As an all encompassing label, ska would fail to adequately apply to Maximum The Hormone's [MTH] style, although it should be kept in mind as the core riffs and choruses of many songs rely on melodies and rhythms occurring on the upbeat, an element of their music that is almost entirely to blame for the inability to easily define MTH. The second of these elements leading to convoluted discussion is the fact that many of the bridges exemplify breakdowns, riffs, rhythms and chord progressions pertaining strictly to 'Hardcore' music, which once again brings us back to the option of 'Punk' as an all-encompassing label.
 * For these reasons I believe it is important the article reflects both an accurate description of their song structure expressed in their playing style as well as their varying and versatile catalogue of music. It should be stated at this point that MTH are most definitely NOT Nu Metal or Experimental in absolutely any way, and I am happy to discuss this further but do not feel there is a need. My final options I would like to present you all with are - after taking into account the importance of the diverse nature of MTH's music as mentioned many times throughout the discussion - are that two genres be selected from Reggae, Hardcore and Punk. The reason two should be selected has already been made clear, MTH are a diverse band and the use of two genres will reflect this. Personally I feel they should be listed as 'Reggae' and 'Hardcore' as these are the two most important elements of their music and are present in most, if not all of their songs. Punk or Ska could also be used, but using Reggae already implies everything both Punk and Ska would. --Richard
 * It's nice that you can analyze the band's sound so well, but it seems like you are trying to stretch to the furthest extremes possible (Reggae? Say that aloud, maybe it's a biiit too drastic of an assumption). The problem with your logic is that everything within the realm of Wikipedia must be explicitly (or very minimally implicitly) stated in a reliable, third-party source. Cheers. --Jacob Talk 03:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * As radical as something as reggae would sound, I don't think the MTH apple has fallen all too far from that particular tree. It provides the foundation from which their music has evolved, though unfortunately for me I'm yet to find sources to reference and the few that do take a swing at classifying MTH are either incredibly careless and simply make assumptions or express a clear lack of knowledge on the topic. I will refrain from making future changes until I can find suitable sources. Though, on the topic of conciseness, I believe either reggae or punk coupled with hardcore would provide the most concise resolution to this debate as they are all either primary or secondary genres. PinkTentacle (talk) 04:20, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Punk and hardcore I cannot disagree with, because those are extremely obvious for any listener familiar with the terms, and likewise, a source should not be difficult to dig up, especially with rising overseas activity. I appreciate your efforts on this page, because it receives relatively little attention, even thought the band enjoys a fairly significant celebrity status in Japan. Good luck to both of use looking for sources, and happy editing! --Jacob Talk 00:34, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

←Just giving a heads up on what I'm doing: I removed just the very first reference on the Hardcore genre, because it was a fan-generated (i.e. not considered "third-party reliable"), but the first reference is certainly adequate, so the genre handle can stay, absolutely. Thanks for grabbing a source for this! :) --Jacob Talk 15:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, here's the (as of now unsourced) verdict: MTH are NOT nu-metal, they do not share the emphasis on hip-hop-based grooves Limp Bizkit or Korn use, or the turntablism, or the angstiness. They are NOT reggae in any part. Hardcore punk sounds like an appropiate label for part of their sound, as does funk (think of the bass and some of the guitar riffs). Pop punk also seems like a good label. Also metal, because it's the unifying sound in their style. And maybe we can mention rap because of the way some lyrics are structured, but it's a stretch. So, I'd say they are punk-metal with funk and pop influences or something like that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.161.180.214 (talk) 01:14, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I highly disagree with the nu metal categorization, but you can't change what the sources say. WTF (talk) 20:56, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

removed the "metalcore" tag since that was just ripped from Sputnikmusic's page for the band; genre tags there are just user-voted, so it cannot be sourced for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:544:100:5721:C1AA:F084:9C58:BB9 (talk) 21:06, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Poor Wording
Am i the only one who finds "Nao had fallen pregnant" a weird choice of words? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.214.90.9 (talk) 21:16, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

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Alternative / Progressive genre
This Band is verry progressive, like "System of a Down". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_of_a_Down It have sudden, rapid changes, very different from genre. Of course, that makes it progressive. Please add to genre "Progressive". 188.142.218.232 (talk) 08:44, 4 February 2023 (UTC)