Talk:Megacorporation/Archives/2012

What happened to this page and why?
Why was the list with megacorps removed wholesale? It could have been cleaned up! I promptly downloaded the version before that change - Thank you for the archive! Now it is quite a worthless article with a strange reference to Mr. Gibson who may be a writer, but most certainly did not invent this trope, as it had been used by many writers before him like Heinlein and Dick. His First published novel is from the year 1984, while the movie "Alien" portrays the epitome of evil megacorporations already in 1979. If this incredibly lengthy (and inaccurate) reference to Mr.Gibson were removed, there would be hardly anything left in this article so that it should be reverted to "this is a stub". Duh! 79.196.221.67 (talk) 23:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC)]

Drat!
Drat, I forgot why I was watching this page! Mathiastck 17:39, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

In both, hardly
In both the movie Blade Runner and the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, the Tyrell Corporation is hardly a megacorp controlling the world government, flouting laws. It's just a company that makes robots, neither publication implies anything more. I removed it. (God, I'm a loser for arguing about something so menial.) Sloverlord 01:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Isn't it just plain old US Robotics?
In I, Robot.... isn't it just plain old US Robotics, just exactly like US Robotics, which really exists? I'll check it out later in the book, and return with results. Sharprs 03:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

megacorporations list
Whose the monkey who went nuts with the list of megacorporations? 99% of everything mentioned on the list isn't a megacorporation. They just made a list of every corporation, fictional or actual. For the record, just because it's a business does not make it a megacorporation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.172.198.145 (talk) 07:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Agreed...that list needs to be trimmed. It's just a list of fictional corporations, many of which definitely do not play a role in their fictional work that makes them fit the definition of megacorporation. &mdash;Lowellian (reply) 01:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I know Arasaka, Swars corporate sector authority, pentex (to some degree), Tyrell Corp, and Weyland-Yutani are considered megacorps (by the various books they pop up in), im not familiar with the rest, care to help? Alidcat


 * One possible solution would be to require references that identify the entry as a megacorporation. Without an independent reference, it becomes arguable whether a fictional company belongs in this list or not.  However, I don't think this list is at all nessisary.  I'd rather replace it with a lovely prose article that sites it's references describing particularly notable megacorporations, but don't have the references (or to be honest, the interest) to do so. -Verdatum (talk) 16:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Trade Federation
I find it interesting that Czerka from KOTOR is here, but the Trade Federation from the movies is not. Is there some reason for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.142.56 (talk) 14:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Proposal to delete article
This article has absolutely no references, if none can be found in two weeks, I propose that this article be deleted, what do other users think?--R-41 (talk) 00:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Poor referencing is not an argument for deletion; just for cleanup. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  13:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * no referencing is potentially an argument for deletion. Rather, no references, and no reason to believe references can be found. -Verdatum (talk) 15:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I say delete it. Without the list of Megacorporations this article is pointless and doesn't provide any real context or jumping off points.Sturmovik (talk) 04:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

The megacorporations bank mergers
Today we all know american, german and british banks have an inmense control over governments around the world. The proof: golbal crisis. The wall street banks have toghether more economic power than any central bank in the world now. Also we have to put in this article some about the Federal Reserve because it is a private owned central bank. That means Megacorporation. In this moments there are multinational corporations more powefull than the biggest countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.164.52.89 (talk) 10:11, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit dispute: Disney as megacorp
The following is disputed as not representative of a true megacorporation, by User:Serendipodous:



Disney is one of the few multinational corporations to achieve a large degree of self-governmental control, in the Florida region known as the Reedy Creek Improvement District. Within this district, the Disney corporation has the legal authority to establish its own building codes, power plants, and utilities, fire departments, and to seize land outside the district under eminent domain. The corporation protects itself from outside interference by permitting primarily only Disney employees to own land within the district, keeping voting power to elect district managers (also Disney employees) within company control, and thereby preventing restriction on company actions and projects within the district. In 2011, after Disney with 17000 acres, the second largest landowner is the Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts of Toronto with less than 300 acres. The (British) East India Company played the role of a megacorporation in India, raising its own army and administering large portions of the Indian subcontinent for 250 years, before being absorbed into the British Raj. (See Company rule in India for citations.)

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DMahalko (talk) 02:53, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
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No. You do not understand. I am not arguing whether or not your evidence proves Disney represents a megacorporation. What I am arguing is that it is not your job to make such claims, regardless of the evidence you present. Wikipedia is not a blog or journal on which to publish your own conclusions. Wikipedia reports what others say. Find someone claiming flat out that Disney is a megacorporation, and you can include it.  Serendi pod ous  09:05, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I second what User:Serendipodous says. Provide sources.  Blue Rasberry    (talk)   12:18, 20 March 2012 (UTC)