Talk:Meili

Son of Odin and Jörð?
He is brother of Thor, and so it seems his mother is Jord.--Mychele (talk) 19:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * While Jörð's mother is not attested, the following is a post made to my talk page by that addresses this issue and therefore may be of interest to readers:


 * "Apparently, it was common in 19th century scholarship to consider Meili to be the son of Odin and Jörð. For example:
 * ""Von Thors Bruder Meili wird nichts weiter erwähnt, als dass auch er ein Sohn Odins ist (Sn. Edd. 211. Haustl. ebd. 120); auch die gleiche Mutter, Jörd, ist zu vermuthen, da Thor allein unter den Asen als Meilis Bruder zugenannt wird.""


 * which, translated, reads:
 * "Of Thor's brother Meili nothing further is mentioned save that he, too, is a son of Odin; the same mother, Jörd, is to be assumed, as Thor alone among the Asir is referred to as 'Meili's brother'."


 * (from: Uhland, Ludwig. (1868). Schriften zur Geschichte der Dichtung und Sage, Vol. 6. Stuttgart: Verlag der J. G. Cotta'schen Buchhandlung. pg. 18.)
 * This view can be found scattered throughout 19th century scholarship, as, for instance, in (a) Barth, Christian K. (1846). Teutschlands Urgeschichte, Vol. 5. Erlangen: J. J. Palm & Ernst Enke. pg. 396 and (b) Pierer, Heinrich A. (1844). Universallexikon der Gegenwart und Vergangenheit, Vol. 21. Altenburg: H. A. Pierer. pg. 204. I'm sure more citations could be found, though they hardly seem necessary: the view was a popular one, but has not - to my knowledge - seen any support for a long, long time.
 * Rydberg considers Meili to be a by-name of Baldr:
 * "Meili, Asa-god, the same as Baldur. Thor commends himself on one occasion as being Odin's son and Meili's brother. In one of his epithets (Foot-meili), the gentle Hoenir is compared with Baldur. The "rain of weapons" is called both Meil-rain and Fal's rain with reference to the "rain of weapons", in which Baldur stood when the gods shot, threw, and hewed at him."


 * (from: Rydberg, V. (2003). Our Father's Godsaga: Retold for the Young. Lincoln: iUniverse. ISBN: 0-595-29978-4. pg. 191.)


 * I'm not exactly a Rydberg fan, but the view is, in itself, notable enough to warrant inclusion IMO."


 * I have since added this material to the article. bloodofox: (talk) 09:19, 12 July 2010 (UTC)