Talk:Mel B/Archive 1

POV
I have made some major revisions to the article to remove POV slanted content, and lots of speculative original research. The article still needs some serious citations for a lot of claims that seem to have no general basis. Pacian 20:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

2006 Love Thy Neighbor- As Lonnie ?
2006 Love Thy neighbor- As Lonnie

This is not to be found on imbd. Is this really happening?Zigzig20s 09:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Picture
is there a good pic of her that we could put over all of the personal info? Slyj18 16:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Fortuna Daphne Bay
is NOT the baby's name. Please stop putting it up there. She hasn't even picked a name yet. *YaHeard* 12:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Baby's real name
The baby's real name is Angel Iris Murphy Brown and it's from the new OK! magazine interview and photoshoot. So if someone could please change it, it would be nice. Thanks. SoWhut april 24, 2007. 10:58 PM —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.3.20.130 (talk) 02:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC).

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Biography assessment rating comment
WikiProject Biography Assessment

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 19:04, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Mel's lover
Please stop putting it on the page 'bout Mel having a female lover. Mel said nothing in the interview expect for the "I will always love Eddie" thing, but that was probably taken from the interview she had with OK! magazine. But what is being put up there is not her interview nor has she said any of that. It's just gossip so please stop putting it on there. Thanks ListenTaWhutISay

I removed it again and someone removed my posts on here. Now please stop putting it on there. We don't need rumours and gossip. BabysOnlyG

Can some please removed the thing about Mel having a female lover? It's not an interview given by her. It's only gossip and rumours so it has no place on this page. Holler2004


 * The report is sourced and no one has put forward any real suggestion that it is false. Mel is not the only source for her information on her life. "Gossip" is means whatever someone doesn't want talked about (I discuss, you speculate, he gossips). Mel herself said people can call her lesbian, bisexual, or heterosexual. She doesn't seem to get too overheated about the subject. JenAW 18:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Nevertheless, one or two flings does not make her bisexual. I'm removing the LGBT musicians cat again until and unless she self-identifies as lesbian or bisexual. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  14:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Someone keeps putting it up there. Wether it's true, or not it shouldn't be up there unless Mel states it herself. If that's going to be put up there might as well put up everything the papers print about her. holler2004

I took it down. Hopefully they won't put it back up. Like you said, if their going to keep putting that up they might as well put up everything the papers write about her. SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 14:32, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Picture
Honestly, that picture is terrible. It would be better if there were no picture at all.


 * I think the picture is good. It should stay up there so there is at least one on the page. (Scary4Eva 03:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)Scary4Eva)

DNA results
People magazine is saying it's official he's the father. Here's the page if anyone wants to put it up. (Scary4Eva 04:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)Scary4Eva)

Mel B gets married
I'm not sure how to add this in, but People.com magazine has reported that Melanie B got married. Here's the link to it :
 * I added it at the bottom of the Personal Life section. More details can be added as info becomes available. Ariadne55 03:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Future plans needs updating
can someone move the Dancing with the Stars entry. it's written as hearsay in the future plans section, but it has actually happened and is CURRENT.

not sure where it should go, as it's not 'acting'. 194.221.133.211 09:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Musical career
Maybe it's a wikipedia thing, but for a regular reader, starting the career section with "At the height of the Spice Girls' success" looks a bit weird. Surely she did something before she reached that point?

Actually it is the truth. Melanie Started out musically in the Spice Girls (before that she was in dancing school) and when they were at the height of their fame she first ventured solo with "Word up" and "I want you back". By the time her solo album came out (2000) the girls fame was waning and in question. So thats technically the truth of it. user:The Ginger one

'''Her 2005's album L.A. State of Mind had a regualr relase just in the Uk and it hasn't chrted in small countries like Croatia. The only single 'TODAY' had a UK release only too.''' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.208.83.249 (talk) 09:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

LGBT category
The information about her "lover" keeps getting re-inserted, even though there have only been tabloid reports of this relationship, none that pass Wikipedia's guidelines for reliable sources. I'm removing the claim again until and unless a solid source can be found. Please see the relevant policy about categorizing someone by sexual orientation. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 15:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

What if i said i found evidence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mackdanny (talk • contribs) 06:24, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I've seen a pic of Mel kissing a woman, I'm guessing fans/PR people run wiki from seeing many stars' bios —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.31.248 (talk) 18:35, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


 * She said on Howard Stern Show that she had a five year relationship with a woman. Here is a rundown of the interview, do what you want with it.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:24, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

New music
Mel B has returned to the music scene after 8 years, with her new single For Once In My Life, which was set on the former Wisteria Lane — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.9.43.75 (talk) 22:44, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Suggested move

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Moved to Mel B. bd2412 T 19:46, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Melanie Brown → ? – After Melanie Chisholm was moved to Melanie C, I had a think about this too. All of Melanie Brown's early material identifies her as "Melanie B", whilst in all her recent TV appearances (and on the artwork of "For Once in My Life") she's referred to as "Mel B". Or is the current title better? Unreal7 (talk) 20:55, 30 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Move to Mel B, undeniably the common name. WikiRedactor (talk) 21:45, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment, I think she was/is well-known as "Melanie B" for a longer time than Melanie Brown and Mel B. So if we should rename the name of her article, it should be Melanie B.--SuperHotWiki (talk) 00:24, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Move to Mel B - many articles use this name. Current title is used occasionally, but more used than other names, like Melanie C. --George Ho (talk) 05:36, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Move to Mel B - Mel B is most frequently used and most recognisable. --Rushton2010 (talk) 22:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


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Scary Spice
I was under the impression that the Spice Girls' nicknames wer a marketing tool and not assigned by the media. at any rate theres no source for that information, shouldn't there be? 134.83.1.233 12:07, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

According to their biographies (Melanie B, Victoria, and Geri have all written at least one biography) the Top of the Pops mag gave them the nicknames and they just kinda 'stuck'. They eventually started playing into it always saying "Oh Posh you dont have your black dress on!" "Oh Baby where's your pigtails?" user: The Ginger one

Yes, they were given them by Top of the Pops magazine. Although Geri's was Sexy Spice, and that somehow changed to Ginger Spice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.43.114 (talk) 12:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

It says that one of the reasons she is called Scary Spice is because she is the only black member of the group? What on earth? That should be removed. I can't imagine that there's any truth in that. M Walter Parenteau (talk) 17:32, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Shes not black anyways, shes half Native-Briton [white] and half african. 107.222.205.242 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:14, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

'Black British singers' category
Why is Melanie included in that category (she is half white)? I distinctly recall hearing her say that she was called racist names by both black, and white people, when she was younger. People are often fond of lumping people of black/white descent into the 'black' category? It is disrespectful to that person, and that person's white side of the family... 70.238.220.101 (talk) 20:03, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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Mel B & Stephen Belafonte's marriage/divorce
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Mel B has just filed for divorce but there are no reliable sources saying they are legally divorced yet. In fact, (if I'm not mistaken) California law means their divorce won't even be finalised for at least 6 months and during this time they can back out and thus remain legally married. Point is, they are not legally divorced yet. If and when it is finalised, we can change the status. Bennv3771 (talk) 05:24, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

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Assault allegations
Hello, I recently added an addition to Melanie Browns Wikipedia page due to it not being present. October 17th 2018 credible articles began posting stories related to Mel assaulting a male model, Dujuan Thomas , at a fashion show at The Sheraton Grand Downtown Los Angeles. A user removed this addition due to my original source being TMZ. But the story has hundreds of credible sources including News, radio, television ect. It was a very viral story. There was an actual police investigation and charges are pending in this case. {{redacted|This incident was even acknowledged by Stephon Belafonte Mels ex husband. As he was in contact with Dujuan during this event. Mel was dropped from Americas Got Talent due to this incident as well. ({|That was only known by close sources to the family}}). So I was told to post this discussion here so more like minded indivuals could research and add this to her Wikipedia page. NEWS PAPER

YAHOO SOURCE

These are just some of the HUNDREDS of soures.

Abbycarroll (talk) 03:27, 4 July 2019 (UTC)


 * First, your title of this section itself is a BLP violation. We are NOT in any circumstance or anywhere going to say in Wikipedia's voice that ANY person, famous or not, assaulted anyone unless or until that person is convicted of assault in a court of law. Hence, I've changed your section header. John from Idegon (talk) 03:38, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
 * References 1, 2, 3, and 5 fail WP:RS on face. Reference 8 is reporting on what 1 said, so equally unreliable. Your statement in parentheses is in itself a BLP violation and I'll be redacting it and requesting its oversight, as it is an unattributed and clearly unattributable, by your own words, negative statement about a living person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by John from Idegon (talk • contribs) 03:51, July 4, 2019 (UTC)
 * sorry when making this I didn't know it had to be perfect. I thought this was a private discussion page... but source 4 is a good source ?? and here is an additional Yahoo news and The Sun source.
 * Abbycarroll (talk) 04:19, 4 July 2019 (UTC)


 * No, 4 is not a good source, either. By community consensus, The Sun is one of the few sources that have absolutely been deemed unreliable and not suitable as a source. See WP:DEPSOURCES for the deprecation rationale, and WP:BLPCRIME for guidance on accusations and allegations.  Orville talk 05:05, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Abbycarroll. There are no private pages on Wikipedia, and anyone who can access Wikipedia can see this page and even edit it. This is one of the reasons why you need to always constantly be aware of policies like WP:BLP because they apply everywhere on Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Alleged Assualt
I would like to further a discussion on relable sources to include Dujuan Thomas into the Mel B Wikipedia page. I have sources from Yahoo and television that discuss the issue. I was informed that The Sun was not a legit source? is this true? but other than that I believe it is worth adding to her Bio due to its significance in her life and Dujuans Life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbycarroll (talk • contribs) 09:56, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Dating life
Why is "In December 2018, Brown fell down some stairs, breaking several ribs and suffering a serious cut to her hand, for which she underwent emergency surgery" under 'Dating life'? 109.204.166.214 (talk) 17:22, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

I actually like Mel b I adore her so much wish I could meet her one day or have a contact number of her. Mathebajass (talk) 00:54, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Other Projects
2011 - Let's Dance with Mel B ref https://www.trueachievements.com/game/Lets-Dance-with-Mel-B SquashEngineer (talk) 13:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Lorraine Gilles

 * https://www.tmz.com/2017/09/06/mel-b-stephen-belafonte-nanny-lorraine-gilles-sex-sham-marriage/
 * https://www.tmz.com/2017/04/21/mel-b-sued-nanny-lorraine-gilles-3-way-sex-belafonte-lawsuit-defmation/

The section on her personal life should mention the lawsuits with former nanny Lorraine Gilles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8080:7500:9B9:3828:B408:972:8D7A (talk) 22:37, 22 December 2020 (UTC)