Talk:Merry-go-round train

Does anyone know when British Rail stopped using Brake Vans with these, and later dispensed withg guards?


 * As far as I'm aware the brake vans went in 1968 when the requirement to have a brake van on a fully fitted train was dropped. Guards were still in use in the late 1980s sitting in the rear cab of the locos.BaseTurnComplete (talk) 21:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well stone me, if I wasn't looking through my old Motive Power Annual 1987 the other day and wondered the same thing, having found this on page 76: "A southbound MGR train, en route for Fiddlers Ferry from Lakeland Colliery, approaches Sellafield on 16 August 1985 with a Class 47 at the front and the obligatory guard's van for these trains on the rear." Goose (talk) 20:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

They used air-piped brake vans for many more years on Parkside - Fiddlers Ferry trains, because they reversed around one side of the triangle between Walton Old Junction and Warrington Arpley. 79.75.225.64 (talk) 21:21, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

RWM?
All the citations are given in the form "RWM 1965 Jul p388". It's far from clear to those who are casual browsers what "RWM" might be. (RWM gives a Russian shortwave radio station!) Please spell this out in full. 86.136.250.154 (talk) 15:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

RWM = Railway Magazine ! --JustinSmith (talk) 12:22, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I tried to clarify that RWM = Railway Magazine at the bottom of the srticle, but I couldn`t work out how to do it ! ? ! --JustinSmith (talk) 12:53, 3 October 2008 (UTC)