Talk:Metodi Shatorov

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Bulgaria and Macedonia
In the article you refer to Sharlo as both Bulgarian and ethnic Macedonian. How is this information credible? It also says that he was the secretary of the Provincial Committee of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia when in fact it was the newly established Communist Party of Macedonia. Also, you say that he was pro-Bulgarian but this is not true as he supported ethnic Macedonian Partisan Detachments in the National Liberation War of Macedonia. I did not want to make any edits to the article to avoid conflict with other editors but I hope to get some feedback. I realize that the article makes no direct assertions that he was Bulgarian but parts of the article make no sense. Also, the article has no sources.Frightner 12:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * From what I can see, most of the information of this article is taken from here, a nationalist Bulgarian website, accusing ethnic Macedonians of being revisionists and propagandists. I can understand the shame of linking to it in the article itself. Frightner 13:05, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

To the sockpuppet
Please, Mactruth, stop disrupting the project. Your IP is dynamic so I guess you think you can do whatever you want. Why do you think this version is neutral? You call the guy an ethnic Macedonian, no? -- L a v e o l  T 22:29, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not this "Mactruth". See, I don't want to present him as a pure ethnic Macedonian, because he was not. But it is also wrong to say he was a pure Bulgarian. Etnhically seen, he was an ethnic Macedonian, but had strong pro-Bulgarian intentions and rather cooperated with the Bulgarian communists than with the Yugoslavs. Please be neutral93.219.253.116 (talk) 00:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppet, he was Bulgarian politician. Jingby (talk) 05:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Bulgarian politician born in Prilep? Be rational please, dear nationalist pov-ist. He was an ethnic Macedonian that later moved to Bulgaria whose policy was pro-bulgarian. you know that, you just want to present him as an ethnic bulgarian. please accept this compromise: "neither bulgarian, nor macedonian" 93.219.251.253 (talk) 15:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Sock, where are the references? Why were all of them removed? Is this the real face of Macedonism? Jingby (talk) 06:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Want a reference that he was a pro-bulgarian Macedonian? Here you are: http://books.google.com/books?id=HjSsAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA130&dq=sharlo+bulgarian&lr=&hl=bg#PPA130,M1 93.219.242.45 (talk) 00:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * People, let us be rational.. if it was for Macedonians he was an ethnic Macedonian, if it was for Bulgarians he was a Bulgarian. What now? We have to retreat from our positions and accept the compromise pro-bulgarian Macedonian. 93.219.253.153 (talk) 07:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This is no compromise. You're a sock of a banned user. Go away. I can't be more clear that this. -- L a v e o l  T 19:08, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well that's the only possible compromise, or do you have another suggestion? It would be natural if the article simply stated he was a Macedonian communist, but since you claim him it can be 'pro-Bulgarian Macedonian'. That's more than fair. I already said I am not interested in presenting this person as a "true Macedonian" or whatsoever. I hope you have some willingness to compromise, too. 93.219.253.230 (talk) 12:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Also he was only Bulgarian communist, with exeption of the year 1941, when he made an atempt to attach the Macedonian communists to Bulgarian. This is all. Jingby (talk) 12:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * He was a Macedonian (or at that time Yugoslav) and a Bulgarian communist (Tito was also a communist activist when he was in Russia). But anyway.. Laveol (on another page) proposed another compromise solution similar to the one found on other articles of Macedonian or Bulgarian historical persons: "was a revolutionary from Macedonia (region)/the region of Macedonia". Are you ok with that? I think it is a good proposal, just in Sarlo's case it would be communist and not revolutionary. 93.219.253.230 (talk) 12:43, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

He was not a revolutionary! Jingby (talk) 13:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That is what I said/meant: He was not a revolutionary, but a communist. So, is the proposal acceptable to you? 93.219.254.227 (talk) 18:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

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