Talk:MetroCard

Possible disambiguation candidate
Possible disambiguation candidate ? 14:46, 19 April 2007 User:70.107.144.119

In the Washington, D.C. metro area, "MetroCard" means a card used for payment in the Washington metro system. 22:08, 21 December 2003 User:209.8.184.25


 * I was considering that as well, although I really don't know anything about the DC metrocard, or any of the other existing metrocard systems. If anyone wants to write a stub for those, the NY page should probably be left on the main page with links to other pages or a separate disambiguation page if there are enough other  metrocards.  If someone writes a full article for the DC system, then the main page should become a disambig. page.  Anyone interested? 22:17, 21 December 2003 User:Drago9034


 * wikipedia does have a page for the Washington metro, Washington_Metro. I suppose you mean a whole page for the Washington metro metrocard system, though, and I guess that has to wait until someone finds that a sufficiently interesting topic to write about. 22:19, 21 December 2003 User:209.8.184.25

There's also a new Oyster card in London which is pretty much identical. Maybe rather than writing articles on all of these we need to make a general article on them - and mention any differences in the article. Then metrocard, oyster card and all the others could be redirects? Secretlondon 22:23, Dec 21, 2003 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't a lot of detail be left out if there was one general article for electronic payment of subway fares? On the current metrocard page, almost all of the information is new york city subway-specific information. The cards function in the same way, but I'm sure that the fares and history of the oyster card and NY metrocard are not identical.  I support disambiguation for the metrocard and a separate page to link to pages like the metrocard and oyster card, but I don't see how combining all of them would be useful.

Do we need fare information? That must change almost every year! Secretlondon 22:36, Dec 21, 2003 (UTC)


 * Fare information changes, but other elements of the system don't. The only reason I put the fares on was to show the differences between the three types of cards that can be purchased.  Just a note, the last time the NYC fare changed before 2003 was in 1995. 22:55, 21 December 2003 User:Drago9034

Antenna Design
The firm hired to design the outside of the MetroCard Vending Machine was IDEO. The person that headed the design for IDEO was Masamichi Udagawa. He left IDEO to form another company, which is Antenna Design. Antenna Design has been involved with Transit since that time, but I felt it was important to make that distinction. 19:26 & 19:27, 8 July 2004 User:King Moonraiser

Blue MetroCard
I don't think there's enough potential detail in Blue MetroCard to deserve its own article. Wouldn't it be better off as a section in this article -- perhaps with the History section rewritten to describe the transition from blue to yellow? --Polonius 13:36, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. Merge.  --CComMack 23:01, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

What about TransitCheck?
Can someone add info on that? Pacific Coast Highway (blah • I'm a hot toe picker) 21:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Very, very good point. I don't really know much about it, but we should really put some more information about it in the article. alpha Chimp  laudare 02:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

It should be covered. The TransitCheck card is notably different from standard metrocards. The reverse side bears the TransitChek logo in full color. 14:48, 19 April 2007 User:70.107.144.119

MetroCard value adding
I removed:"($3.00 cards available from PATH vending machines )" as it is misleading. PATH Vending machines although set for the basic PATH fare values can also issue cards in any amount. The reference of the $4 to $80 is mainly for sales at station booths. On MVMs you can put any amount on an existing MetroCard. You can get a new card for $3.00. --Allan 17:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I removed this from the article as it doesn't provide any good informational value related to the MetroCard.

Police Metrocards
There is a NYPD Metrocard that while plastic, bears a remarked similarity to the Bus Transfer paper Metrocard (Blue on white). Apparently, it is not restricted by any time or person limit. 19 April 2007 User:70.107.144.119

$2 & $4 Cards
Actually, wrapped retail labeled $2 and $4 cards exist, but are not distributed to retail (that I've seen). They are provided to customers in instances where the remaining balance of a damaged or expired card is of equal value, or by businesses or agencies who provide carfare reimbursement. The denomination color coding of the particular wrapper is aqua for the $2 variety, and green for the $4 variety. 14:46, 19 April 2007 User:70.107.144.119

Predecessor systems elsewhere
Previously, since the late 1980s, the MBTA, the mass transit system of Boston, Massachusetts has had monthly passes that worked as unlimited farecards.

--Allan 15:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Expiration
Does anyone know how/why the cards expire? I always felt that was an unfair practice, since there are no refunds given for unused cards. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 19:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Metrocards get scratched and nicked over time, and start to need more and more reswipes before they will work. I guess the expire thing is so these old abused (or not) cards get forcefully retired rather than someone keep swiping them over and over again to get it to read. There might be security reasons from Cubic too, such as changing algorithms or encryption keys every so often. These is all unsourced conjecture. 68.173.158.64 (talk) 05:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Disabled Metrocards
Some of the information about discount Metrocards for the disabled is incorrect. The article states that these cards are labeled "photo ID cards"; mine has my photo, but says "Disability" in bold, and has a giant letter "R". This is embarrassing to people like me whose disability is usually not visible, and wish to keep it that way. 66.65.134.18 13:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

The opposite side does indeed say "Photo ID Pass". Also, as embarrassing as you may find it, the card needs to be as recognizable as it is (if not more so) to prevent misuse by others. This is especially important to identify the use of lost or stolen cards. --Ookamo (talk) 16:38, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Anonymity and data retention
The article omits any discussion of anonymity. If a card is purchased with a debit or credit card, there is enough information to identify the purchaser and tie it to travel history. I would like to know the policy for retaining this data, and what kind of court order or subpoena is needed to obtain it. 66.65.134.18 13:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

The "Technology" section mentions how the stored fare cards work (updated values are reported back to a server) but make no mention of the 30-day unlimited, and more importantly the easyexpress cards. The EasyPayXPress card must somehow be tied to the indidvidual using it. Is information written back to the card from the central database? Can the card be tied to a user in realtime? http&#58;//www.twitter.com/lindyboi (talk) 23:56, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Fare evasion article?
I just started a discussion at Talk:Token_sucking which is also related to this article. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Move?

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was no consensus for the move --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 14:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * MetroCard (New York City) →  — There are no other articles with the name MetroCard at this time, and thus there is no need to disambiguate. — AEMoreira042281 (talk) 03:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As MetroCard (disambiguation) shows, there are metrocard systems in several cities and countries across the world. The reader needs to know at the start that the article is about the New York Metrocard system. shows that there is a metrocard system in Washington-DC, and an NYPD police metrocard. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose, there are other MetroCards. +Hexagon1 (t) 01:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment, at least for now. If the move fails, then MetroCard (disambiguation) should be moved to MetroCard. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose and move MetroCard (disambiguation) to MetroCard. No case made for primary usage. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose, per User:Vegaswikian -- BWCNY (talk) 06:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I will not move the MetroCard (disambiguation) to MetroCard (or should that be Metrocard?) until there is another article on another MetroCard system, (No preemptive disambiguation) and the current setup seems a reasonable compromise. If one is written then leave a message on my talk page and I'll move it. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 14:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Maximum of 2 Transactions per Day for any Credit or Debit Card
I just learned the hard way that the MetroCard Vending Machines will not permit any one debit or credit card to be used more than two times in one day. Presumably this is for security purposes, but it is not convenient. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.201.99 (talk) 00:39, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

This doesn't seem to be true in practice, since one of the more common vending machine complaints, is that of repeated consecutive charges to the same card during a transaction. This usually happens during credit/debit card read errors without informing the customer the debit already occurred. --Ookamo (talk) 22:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

New York Public Advocate office reports that 25% of card swipes at the turnstile fail
the article is here http://publicadvocategotbaum.com/policy/documents/StuckattheTurnstile06-22-05.pdf. Having a failed swipe and looking for attendant (who is not necessarily present) has indeed been my own experience on many occasions. Strangely enough, this persistent problem apparently gets far less coverage than it deserves. 76.119.30.87 (talk) 00:11, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Transit Employee ID Cards
This entire subsection is not cited, and I don't think it is accurate. I'd like to add a refimprove section tag at the very least, but I'm not sure if it would be more appropriate to put it under the section heading or the subsection. Thoughts? -- Ginotech (talk) 19:18, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

You've ripped the guts out of the article. Not cited? There are images of the cards in question. You even removed the Emergency Services cards which have been documented in the press. Will someone PLEASE revert this evisceration? Great detail added for the benefit of disabled riders have been removed. Virtually ALL of which is documented at mta.info. --69.124.120.87 (talk) 06:59, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

You're confused. - Ginotech (talk) 01:06, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Outdated
TVM at NYC Visitors Center (7th Ave./ 53th St.): the address does not longer exist.--181.47.159.236 (talk) 14:44, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

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NYC Ferries information: remove?
I'd like to remove most of the NYC Ferries information aside from a brief note that MetroCard isn't accepted on the system. This is the MetroCard article, not an article on transportation in NYC. Is there any rationale for keeping that information here? Normally I'd be bold but I worry that I might be missing something here. Kufat (talk) 20:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅I, too, find the number of mentions of NYC Ferry baffling. NYC Ferry doesn't use MetroCard, and this is not New York City transit fares. Some of the information regarding NYC Ferry seems to have been copied from the latter article. TroyVan (talk) 05:04, 27 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Actually, I double-checked and the NYC Ferry mentions are mainly in the "Fares" section, which is an excerpt of New York City transit fares (using ) and cannot be edited independently. So there's not a lot we can do. TroyVan (talk) 05:15, 27 January 2022 (UTC)