Talk:Michael Lee-Chin

Copyvio
The page has contained a large amount of material apparently copied from AIC's webpage, added in an unwikified chunk by an anon in August. I have removed the material. Part of the original material: * [http://www. caribvoice. org/Business/chinchang.html Two fund managers] was blocked by the spamfilter. Guettarda 21:05, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Edit war
It seems that there is a bit of an edit war going on with this page, especially over the image. I have now put the standard Biography template in there. Please please please - if anybody wants to change this back to how it was before, can they explain why on here first. I have also reverted the image back to the hires image as shown here - same applies to this. Blowski 17:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I have now thoroughly rewritten this article, and can those users attempting to use weasel words to express their point of view please discuss the matter on this page first. The most interesting and relevant thing about Lee-Chin are his career background, his current investments, and his philanthropic activities. If you want to make a proper contribution to the article, please focus on expanding these areas, instead of wasting time in an edit war about whether he is black, blasian, Chinese, Jamaican, etc. Also, I need more (reliable) sources, as there does not seem to be much on the internet. If anybody could provide these, I would be grateful. Blowski 18:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. --M @ r ē ino 19:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * P.S. I'm adding a link to Chinese Jamaican, since a lot of readers might be surprised to learn that there's any Chinese of any sort on the island. --M @ r ē ino 19:16, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The reason I removed Chinese Jamaican, and the reason that I'm removing it now, is that it was not discussed here first. We should allow 48 hours before making any further changes to the wording of that paragraph to allow those with a specific interest in this article (i.e. Guettarda and Whatdoyou) to also have a say on the structure of the sentence. In my belief, it is one of the least important sentences in the whole article, but this is my suggestion for how it should be written. I will put messages on the other users' talk pages to invite them to respond, but in the meantime, please do not revert the article from how I have left it.
 * He is of mixed Afro-Caribbean Jamaican and Chinese ancestry.

He is of mixed Afro-Caribbean Jamaican and Chinese ancestry. Blowski 20:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Whatdoyou and I, the two main contributors to this article before your (extremely useful and helpful) contributions, both agreed to the term Chinese Jamaican. I believe that by removing it, you are upsetting an agreed-upon balance -- and, more importantly, removing something that is verifiably true.  I'll wait 48 hours, but I think there is a presumption for its inclusion, and that it should be included unless you can prove it false. --M @ r ē ino 19:58, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that Chinese Jamaican is a commonly used or understood term, and so this sentence better explains it. My recommendation:
 * I've found some more information about his parents, and as a result, have re-written the entire paragraph in a way that explains it objectively and comprehensively. If you disagree, please feel free to revert the changes, and comment here. Blowski 07:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I rewrote the first bit to clarify that his monoracial-Asian grandparents were Chinese Jamaican, in the same way that any Italian person who moves to America is Italian American; you don't have to be born somewhere or be biracial to be a hyphenated person. --M @ r ē ino 15:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, I've rewritten that to make that point clearer. Blowski 17:11, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Third generation immigrant
What does that really mean? If two of his grandparents were Jamaicans, then why call him "third-generation immigrant"? Guettarda 04:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * As above, there was a disagreement over how Jamaican (and specifically black) and how Chinese he is. This was the compromise that I managed to get through. I thought it was a fairly standard term, but obviously not. Am stuck for what else to write on there at the moment... Blowski 05:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually that's a separate issue - "Jamaican" is not synonymous with "black" (see Eddie Seaga, for instance). The current wording isn't accurate - he doesn't have "Chinese and Jamaican" parents - he has Chinese and Afro-Jamaican grandparents.  His parents are Jamaican, regardless of race.  Guettarda 18:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, good point well made. Is that better? Blowski 18:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Jamaican is not an ethnicity any more than Canadian.  As a side note, I think the reason that everyone is focusing on this minor point is that the rest of Michael Lee-Chin's bio is uncontroverted.  It's not like he's a Kenneth Lay with a shady business past, or a Ted Turner with an inspiring and wacky business past.  He made his money, as far as I can tell, in relatively boring fashion.--M @ r ē ino 20:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly - Wikipedia is not a tabloid attempting to uncover 'shady pasts', but an encyclopaedia attempting to provide information to those who need it. Blowski 20:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Point
This article looks great! Whatdoyou and Mareino GOOD JOB. It just needs better sourcing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.49.22.2 (talk • contribs)

Additions
Michael Lee-Chin is the new Chancellor of Wilfrid Laurier University

[] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.100.3.67 (talk) 15:43, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello editors. Would it be possible to add the following under "Philanthropy"?: Michael Lee-Chin and family received the 2015 Association of Fundraising Professionals’ (Golden Horseshoe Chapter) National Philanthropy Award in the category of Outstanding Philanthropist with this as the source: https://www.insidehalton.com/community-story/6118044-three-burlington-philanthropists-honoured/Hagen 37 (talk) 15:28, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 23:53, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Bio Box
Good everyone. As you can see I am an infrequent user so I appeal to your patience and experience.

I'd like to suggest an update to the right-hand bio box. To change Michael Lee-Chin's spouse status from "Vera (separated)" to "Vera (Divorced)". Siting the following sources: