Talk:Migrant Housing Act of North Carolina

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I found this to be a very interesting article and glad that this policy is in place but I am wondering how strongly it is enforced? Does the state of NC have the manpower to inspect every residence for violations? I would think in this economy that the state may be slack with inspections and farm owners are cutting corners with registering the housing. I have attended numerous trainings on Human Trafficking (NC is a prime state for trafficking due to its interstate system & agriculture work) and would hope that, if enforced, this Act would make it more difficult for traffickers since they often keep victims in sub-standard housing.Dvpolicy11 (talk) 18:09, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Would suspected violations need to be reported to the NC Department of Labor?Dvpolicy11 (talk) 18:10, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This article was very interesting and informative. This article was also useful to me, because I am also researching legislation. The format of the article is clear and easy to follow. jch127`` __________________________________

Hey Tracey,

Thanks for your feedback and that is all a part of my research and you bring up some great points. It's not largely enforced and the state does not have the power to inspect every residence that applies to be inspected (double-whammy, right!?). Most of my research has been from interviews, which is extremely difficult to document in Wiki-World, but I'm trying to find some documents and literature that I can physically link or post as a reference on here since interviews are not considered factual in wiki-world. And you're totally right about it getting more slack in this economy... good economy, bad economy...it's always been somewhat slack. There are cases often when something goes wrong (for example, a camp --where farmworkers live-- burned down recently in Candler and it was found out that the camp hadn't even been inspected by the NCDOL) and the most trouble the owner may get into is a fine that they can get out of if they follow the process to get inspected. The NCDOL also takes anonymous calls of possible violations...but whether those reports are followed up on is always tricky to measure/monitor. That's still one of my biggest questions. Migrants are scared to call for fear their employer will find out it's them, but that is almost an entirely different subject (migrant worker's rights). Migrants can also call advocacy organizations (Farmworker Advocacy Network and others) to get support in reporting, as well, since it can be an extremely stressful situation.

Thanks for sharing and for providing feedback! ~Mindy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ms68441 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Interesting Video for external links
Did you see the WRAL series on Migrant Housing in NC? It was filmed at the time of the sad debate about "The mattress bill" and focused on the issues behind the amendment - interviews with labor commissioner - advocates etc. They are posted on YouTube in installments - here is link to first one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RouPml-offE (Until I saw that series I never knew about Harvest of Shame, the last piece of work for CBS by Greensboro native Edward R. Murrow.)Anne AC19 (talk) 21:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Some changes I've made and suggestions
Ok so a few things here. First I went ahead and separated your House and Senate into sections, they were worthy enough to make a full edit section on them. Also the "Policy Process & Enacting Legislation" you need to expand. Also under the standards to be met, the first two paragraphs have no sources for them, you need to put them in. Now as for your lead in...I would go ahead and take those entire two sections and add them to a history section or background. the lead is is suppose to have NO sources and is a formal summary of your articles contents (mine is not great yet, a bit short, but you can see the what they expect). Your sources are coming along, I think you got the hang of what I was showing you in class, keep it up.

Finally, lets talk about pictures, the pictures you have used are nice, but do not really apply to your article. because of that, someone will probably come along and remove them form there, but we can fix that! The first picture of the guy...well it's from Cuba, not the US, and the guy is probably a legal citizens. People are going to go, that's really racist and a biased image that has nothing to do with your article. Now if you rename the caption saying, Cuban farmers similar to this man - give location - often come to america and farm the fields as illegal migrants workers (get rid of who shot the pictures, thats on the url image page). But make sure you cite something about Cuban's working in NC.

Now I honestly found a perfect MAIN image for your page instead of the guy. It's really powerful and has a 7.2mb high res picture if you click on the thumbnail. Migrant Experience picture. this is from the library of congress, but if you want to use it, it might take you a bit of work. I did some research for you and it shows that it can be used for educational purposes, however you need would contact them to release this image, even if it is for solely wiki useage (not great because it won't show up in Spanish Wiki). http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ammemrr.pl?title=%3Ca+href%3d%22%2fammem%2fafctshtml%2ftshome.html%22%3EVoices+from+the+Dust+Bowl:+The+Charles+L.+Todd+and+Robert+Sonkin+Migrant+Worker+Collection,+1940-1941%3C%2fa%3E&coll=toddbib&default=ammem&dir=ammem#rights

ask them if they can be used under educational purposes for wiki (also include your mentor's email too), for sole usage on wiki, and maybe even better if they will agree to this code in edit mode. "I, __________, release the attached image under CC-BY-SA and GFDL."

(*just insert two - NOW as for the second picture, water rights has nothing to do with your article. Instead either under the advocate side or maybe debate over the policy sections, you can use either of these pictures

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:May_1_2006_Rally_in_Chicago.jpg

or me lesser favorite of the two:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Protests.jpg

Good luck Mindy, let me know if you need any more help, Kay-z (talk)17:45, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Also I found a link to a camp site for migrant workers that the US established, it from the same photographer from the library of congress Voices from the Dust Bowl: The Charles L. Todd and Robert Sonkin Migrant Worker Collection, 1940-1941 Kayz911 (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * ACUTALLY, I've realized those pictures above are 100% usable images since it is from a GOV website and for educational purposes. If you need help uploading the pictures on Wiki commons, let me know and I'll walk you through the process. Kayz911 (talk) 02:52, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

thanks, Kasey
Hey, Kasey..thanks for your wonderful feedback! I've started making those changes. The USDOE pic is good..and I'll see what I can do to get permission from them for that pic. The others are okay, but I find that this isn't always an issue re: Immigration, but more about rights of those who are here legally (or even illegally, but not always due to their choice)... I don't know. It's a tricky subject. Thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ms68441 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Looking good Mindy, just some formatting thoughts here. First, I've been informed that Wiki has decided that in sections headers, unless it is a proper name (etc. normal cap rules), no other words are capitalized after the first word. Second, the words "Mattress Bill" that are in bold, go ahead and remove that and tie it into the paragraph, such as, the bill _______ also referred to as the "Mattress Bill" etc. You might be able to write a bit more on the lead as well, but even I need to do the same. Also I have spotted three paragraphs that do not have end paragraph sources (first 2 in About the act, 1st in the background). Also you won't need permission to use those photos (i'm 95% sure since it's .gov). I changed a few things, but remember whenever you mention a bill or something that has or SHOULD have a wiki page go and head a [ it (and if it does not have a page, it allows someone to make it)! a Hit me up with a message on FB or my talk page when you get closer to completion, and I can help you with more specific things :-) Kay-z02:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

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Article Needs to be Reviewed and Rewritten
One of the editors - I have not traced it out to see - who made major contributions to this article, has somehow confused various pieces of legislation, (such as the Migrant and Seasonal Agricultural Workers Protection Act of 1983) to such an extent that this article needs to be reviewed and revamped entirely. Somehow an editor has confused the Migrant and Seasonal Agricultural Workers Protection Act signed into law in January of 1983, with the major immigration overhaul of the Reagan administration in 1986 (Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986). The confusion seems to be persistent throughout this article, and would require a line-by-line review to determine revisions and additional research...Stevenmitchell (talk) 03:07, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

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