Talk:Millwall F.C.

International supporters
I ve got to say, I ve always kinda linked the MFC with the legendary Only fools and horses and the Sheringham and Cascarino era. Although I ve just had a glance at this page, it seems to me that there aren t enough things for a foreign supporter, or a potential one to be precise, to identify with. It s only cos I support the Lions, too. Encyclopaedic parts are important, but a section which could show why we really support them wouldn t be too subjective-it would provide a background for understanding of what is MFC all about. I am currently some 2000 miles away and never been to Peckham or England, but there are some qualities that each human being can recognize in the spirit of the real MFC supporters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.147.101.146 (talk • contribs)


 * Encyclopedic "parts" are indeed important, Wikipedia is an Encylopedia. Best wishes, Lion King 15:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Equal first?
In the current version it says "In 1974 Millwall were the first team to play a game on a Sunday", but shouldn't this be "first team to play a home game on a Sunday?", or "took part in the first Sunday match" ? There are usually two teams on the pitch :-) Ttwaring 19:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Good piont:) How about "the first team to host the first game to played on a Sunday"? Lion King 21:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Wot no copy edit? Lion King

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Squad Lists
Something i had noticed on this page was the inclusion of Fabian Estay in the squad list, i for one have certainly never heard of him and am 100% that reading his article he is not a Millwall player. 62.253.199.29 14:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC) << that was me forgetting to sign in Ookie001 14:16, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

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Peter Theo Vasiliou
Peter Theo Vasiliou seems to be a former (albeit I think rather minor) player for Millwall. Are there sources which would allow us to say how many games he player for the team, and when? -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 12:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I have been a Millwall supporter for over 40years and I have never heard of this player, nor can I find any record of him playing for Millwall. The only thing I can suggest, is contacting Gazza@millwall-history.co.uk as I believe he is in possesion of Millwall A Complete History by Richard Lindsay, a most expensive publication! He may be able to shed some light on the matter, but If you want my opinion, it sounds to me like he's trying it on. There is a remote possiblity (of course) that he may have been on Millwall's books, but as I say I have no knowledge or memory of this person playing for Millwall. Hope this helps. Lion King 16:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

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We Fear No Foe
The introduction paragraph states the legend "we fear no foe" was on the team shirts in 1930s. This is wrong. The rampant lion badge with MFC below it appeared on shirts in team photos from 1936, although Millwall did not always play in shirts with these badges. Gazza Millwall-History —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.197.168 (talk) 18:38, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

The Greenwich foot tunnel
I see mention of the Greenwich Foot tunnel in the den section. It stresses the North to South traffic of East End supporters continuing to support Millwall after the move and suggest a new set supporters south of the River after 1910. This of course missed the point and reason why the foot tunnel was built in the first place as much of the Labour in the docks and other industries on the Isle of Dogs lived south of the river and the way the Isle of Dogs was virtually cut off from the North by the West India docks. Gazza Millwall-History —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.30.230 (talk) 13:39, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Notable former players
What is the criteria for a player to be listed here?

Do they have to famous? Internationals? Or just Millwall Legends?

Can't see the justification for Christophe Kinet, Huckerby or Dave Savage being listed here.

Question by Gazza Millwall-History


 * On most club articles some objective criteria has been established for listing ex-players. On the Manchester City F.C. article, they only list members of their hall of fame, and the Chelsea F.C. article lists the winners of their player of the year award. Why not just list the players in Millwall's Hall of Fame? SteveO (talk) 01:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi SteveO, yes that's quite a good suggestion. By the looks of things the players Gazza mentions seem to have been "dealt with":) The only problem I can see is that the Hall of Fame leaves out Keith Stevens, Mister Magoo and certainly our most notable player of all time, although he only played 4 league games, Curtis Weston along with our all time league-goal scorer Neil Harris I also think that members of the FA Cup Final squad belong on the list, I doubt if we will ever make another, certainly not in my lifetime! I think some of them should go certainly, and would value any further opinion you care to offer. Thanks, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 02:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

going by the current criteria "A list of notable footballers who have played for Millwall Football Club. Players who have been honoured in Millwall's Hall of Fame and have significantly contributed to the club's history. Be it through being founder member players, having been given a testimonial for 10 years of service at the club, making over 100 appearances, scoring 50 goals or having receieved international recognition by their country in the form of caps, while playing for Millwall." I think that should see Darren Byfield removed as his caps pre-date his Millwall Spell. Kim Grant's caps may aslo pre-date his Millwall spell. There are several other very minor figures who by virtue of a cap for a low ranking get listed which seems wrong, players like Michael Gilkes, Bobby Bowry and Marc Bircham, players who are not notable in the least! Gazza Millwall-History —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.231.56 (talk) 05:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Kim Grant is confirmed as not being capped at Millwall, Ditto Darren Byfield. Neither meet the criteria to be listed Gazza Millwall-History GazzaLDN (talk) 12:48, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Club Crest
Why dosen't this article have the Club Crest like the all others? &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 16:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh I really like Wikipepia, full of answers you lot! &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 16:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There was one, but it seems to have been deleted for copyright reasons. You can upload it again (or I will if you can point me to a good picture of it), but make sure it has a fair use rationale (see Image:Arsenal FC.png for instance). It should be safe then. SteveO (talk) 16:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much indeed for your courteous and prompt reply. Unfortunately I'm still pretty new to all this and will need help. The only place I think the current Club Crest would available is here I don't know if it could be used, but once again I would value both your opinion and help. Thank you, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 22:50, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries mate, we were all new here once. Other than the one on the banner, I can't find much on that site. I know the club have changed their crest a few times over the years, so I want to make sure I get the right one. How about this? SteveO (talk) 19:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Steve, wow thanks for all your time, that's really nice of you! The Lion with the circle you have is the old one which was replaced by the double lion badge. The new one is just like the one I showed you except it has a black outline. I tried the official site and they seem to be pulling every trick in the book to conceal the new one. I've done quite an extensive search but can't seem to find it. I did however find a page that said the new one had been uploaded by wikipedia user:Pal and has been deleted, I don't know if they can help? All the very best, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 23:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Same here, I can't find it anywhere on the club's site, google etc. Unfortunately, user:Pal has been inactive since August, but I'll drop a note on their talk page anyway and see what happens. It may be worth uploading one of the old ones for now. At least then there's something there. SteveO (talk) 23:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes it's very strange. I think that's a good idea, the closest one to it would be badge "a" here and once again, thanks. &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 00:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay I've uploaded the one you suggested. It should do until the current one is located. SteveO (talk) 18:58, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh yes, that's a knockout! Thanks very much indeed for all your time and trouble. All the best, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 19:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Honours
Millwall didn't win the league (Top Tier) in 1988-89 as stated, and as far as I know have never won the league. --82.45.200.179 (talk) 20:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Introduction
Ther's something up with the intro - sombody sort it.RicoRichmond (talk) 20:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

GazzaLDN 22:00, 26 August 2012 (UTC) The last 3 sentences of the Introduction do need looking at. I had deleted them in an earlier edit, but that was undone.

''Millwall is well known for a long-standing rivalry with West Ham United. The local derby between the two sides has been contested almost 100 times since 1899. Millwall's supporters have an infamous association with hooliganism. The fans are renowned for their chant, "No one likes us, we don't care". '' I think the last sentence should stand on its own, not in the current paragraph.

While Millwall have played West Ham 97 times, this includes many minor games such as Southern Floodlight Cup and London League, which were essential reserve or Youth team games which attracted little or no fans in attendance. We have only played each other 16 times in competitive games in the last 60 years. This rivalry I think more of a modern Phenomenon than a long standing rivalry.

Season 2008-09
I've created a page for the current season, could someone with the power please add it on to the main page? Thanks.. also I'm a rookie at this, so feel free to edit it however you like.

Andylfowler (talk) 22:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Millwall F.C. season 2008-09


 * Is this page of value? I can't see similar pages for other clubs, and there don't seem to be any season pages for other seasons.. AfD anyone? Bertcocaine (talk) 21:51, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * There are lots of similar pages for other clubs, cf. Chelsea F.C. season 2008-09, Arsenal F.C. season 2008-09, Newcastle United F.C. season 2008-09, etc. SteveO (talk) 00:29, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Scunthorpe Play off final
Why no mention of this at all in either the main article or Millwall history? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.96.10 (talk) 15:59, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

2009-2010 Away Kit
I'm no good with wikipedia to be honest and editing the kits would be too hard, but the current away strip is a vertical striped red and black kit, not the white shirt. If somebody could edit that, that would be brilliant. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Docklanders (talk • contribs) 16:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Confidence of redirect?
Millwall Athletic F.C. links here, but there is no mention of Millwall Athletic in this article: is there certainty that the two clubs share a history? Kevin McE (talk) 18:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Removed Rivalries section
I removed the "Rivalries" section because:


 * The word "rivalry" makes no sense between a newspaper and a football club. They might be enemies, but they aren't rivals in the way that Millwall and West Ham might be. The FA also don't seem to be obvious rivals to a football club.


 * There is a large section about a conspiracy that would need some kind of verifiable reference.

Ttwaring (talk) 14:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

"Infamous fans" section
There's a section called Infamous fans, but this doesn't seem to line up with the dictionary definition: This hardly seems to apply to someone walking home from a G20 protest, or Del-Boy's father. Should this section just be merged in with "Famous Fans", dropping the "Infamous" heading? - Ttwaring (talk) 16:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * having an extremely bad reputation; deserving of or causing an evil reputation; shamefully malign; detestable
 * When I submitted the page for a Good article once over the guy suggested the whole famous fans section be taken out, as sections on celebrity supporters are not encouraged, altho personally I see it on quite a few pages and find it interesting and informative myself, but yeah maybe Tomlinson and the Only Fools part should go, rather than being merged. I just thought it was quirky trivia, and the Tomlinson incident/verdict is more infamous than the man himself.NoOneLikesUs (talk) 21:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Zapping it works for me - Ttwaring (talk) 23:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Millwall's Managers
I have edited this section as someone had incorrectly labelled Reg "JR" Smith as Scottish (he was an England International, capped while playing for Millwall!) and former Millwall Captain!

I have deleted the link to the scottish Jimmy Smith, whoever he was!

Gazza Millwall-History —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.231.56 (talk) 05:47, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I also think Bob Hunter is Scottish rather than English, given his Schoolboy prizes and Montrose connection, but don't have absolute confirmation

Gazza Millwall-History —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.231.56 (talk) 06:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Hameur Bouazza
I note he is described as on loan from Arles-Avignon and an edit has been undone to revert to this from my entry.

Millwall FC describe his signing as "a short term contract after leaving French side Arles-Avignon, A fee of £150,000 is rumoured.

217.44.14.231 (talk) 12:25, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate


 * official Millwall site and sky sports say he left the french club, and it's a contract until the end of the season. no mention of loan at all. BillyBatty (talk) 12:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Every single French source that I've read, and I've read at least 10 so far, states that he was loaned out to Millwall with a buy option at the end of the 6 month term. I have yet to come across a source that explicitly states that he terminated his contract with Arles. I'd suggest someone seeks clarification from the clarification from the club because I'm quite sure he's only in on loan. TonyStarks (talk) 19:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I've read loan in a couple of places too, but since the official Millwall site doesn't mention it's a loan and is a more reputable source than any newspaper, I'd say leave it as a short term contract for now. It's definitely worth monitoring over the next week or so, if it needs to be changed. What does the official Arles site say? BillyBatty (talk) 02:59, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, the Arles website doesn't mention the transfer at all. As for the Millwall site, "a short term contract" can be understood either way. Like you said, best approach is probably to monitor it over the next couple of weeks. Cheers. TonyStarks (talk) 03:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Found an English source that states that he is on loan : Jackett: Morison contract talks going well. The article says "It was a quiet transfer deadline day for Millwall in the end on Monday with Jackett happy to have completed his January dealing before the weekend by snapping up Hameur Bouazza on a loan deal." I think this should put the issue to bed, I'll update the article accordingly. TonyStarks (talk) 08:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, lists it as loan on official site too now. Senior Squad | Hameur Bouazza. BillyBatty (talk) 09:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

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Local pronunciation
"Local" pronunciation of Millwall has been added to the opening sentence of the article. Is it correct? --TBM10 (talk) 13:52, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know about the local pronunciation of the name, but I do know that the way it's rendered (/ˈmɪɤɔo/) doesn't match IPA as given on the Wikipedia page Help:IPA for English.

I reckon someone who knows about the local pronunciation and IPA is needed to fix this. 86.174.4.72 (talk) 15:47, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

References in a videogame
They are mentioned in the game Killing Floor. It's mentioned by the player as an insult towards the enemy. Shall this be mentioned? This can be checked right here http://kf-wiki.com/wiki/List_of_Squad_responses#Insults. Best wishes. 190.31.218.74 (talk) 05:06, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * No, this should not be mentioned in the article, it isn't relevant. Camw (talk) 06:04, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Ibrox
I heard on the radio that the Den is a scaled-down replica of Ibrox, a reference to the club's Scottish origins. If this is true could someone add it here and at the stadium and history articles? Spicemix (talk) 15:47, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Need a solid reference for that. You should add it if you can find one. BillyBatty (talk) 20:50, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Kit colours
Should we add Sheffield Wednesday's 2012-13 home kit? Just kidding. --TBM10 (talk) 17:49, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Weirdly, their wikipedia page seem to have forgot their away kit... hah BillyBatty (talk) 17:54, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

They didn't move out of New Cross
The New Den is still in New Cross. It's in the borough of Lewisham and the New Cross ward. Bermondsey would be the borough of Southwark. Epa101 (talk) 10:57, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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Merge in detail from Millwall F.C. in European football
There seems no good reason to have a fork for just the two matches that Millwall played in Europe. I propose merging the pertinent details into the already extant "Millwall in European football" and "Supporters and hooliganism" sections. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:10, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge, also by being British Millwall F.C. is a European club and thus the topic is somewhat misleading. Brandmeistertalk  09:59, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge As it refers to a few games in one season. Joseph2302 21:01, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, TO specifically mention the Hungarian hooliganism episode would give WP:UNDUE to that incident over the many many incidents of hooliganism that Millwall have engaged in over the years. There also seems to be precidence for the existence of this article in that it has been deemed that individual club's European campaigns are notable as per Template:English clubs in European football.  The C of E  God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 06:25, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, on the condition the article is expanded. Millwall were also in the 92-93 and 93-94 Anglo-Italian Cup. Three different years with European competition holds more weight for its own article, unlike Portsmouth F.C. in European football and Wigan Athletic F.C. in European football which only have one campaign. BillyBatty (talk) 13:48, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I do confess that when I wrote the article, I assumed that Millwall hadn't been involved in any of those competitions because I thought the FA wouldn't have wanted those hooligans near it. Nevertheless, I have now included those stats in the article so it is now more than just the UEFA Cup campaign .  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 11:54, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

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notable supporters?
Listcraft anyone? It doesn't add anything to the article. Shouldn't it be removed? Govvy (talk) 20:38, 17 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I think we should keep it as it is in good shape (table format with all entries referenced) and low maintenance. I think it would be more work if it didn't exist and people kept trying to add supporters to other sections. Ttwaring (talk) 22:45, 17 November 2016 (UTC)


 * When I first added it, I had it as a collapsed table. It took up minimal room and if someone was interested in reading it, they could expand it. Most clubs seem to have it in their supporters sections, such as Arsenal F.C. supporters and West Ham United F.C. supporters. The way the West Ham section is arranged would be the best way I think, photos add more depth to the section. BillyBatty (talk) 10:47, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I actually think the West Ham supporters article is by far the best article I've seen on wiki for this type of content, I think Millwall should have a similar page considering the history behind the club. The list should be moved over to it. Govvy (talk) 11:26, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

I think you should add Roy Larner, the "Lion of London Bridge" to the list of notable supporters!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.230.86.159 (talk) 22:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Frankly I think it is odd that the London Bridge Attacks are not mentioned at all. No matter how one feels about the club, the fans, terrorism, or Roy Larner it seems notable.96.240.128.124 (talk) 02:46, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

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Location
There have been several modifications lately as to where the club is located. The article previously stated the club is in South Bermondsey, although that area falls (politically) into the borough of Southwark. I think few people would associate the club with being "in Southwark". Recent disputes around the stadium's future has been between the club and the borough of Lewisham, although I wouldn't consider the club to be located "in Lewisham". Perhaps we should try to reach a consensus as to the true location of Millwall today. A problem is that there is often a difference between a location politically and geographically. The SE16 postcode seems to be designated to Surrey Quays. Personally, I think the most appropriate description is "South Bermondsey, south-east London", without the need to mention a political borough. --TBM10 (talk) 02:24, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2020
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In November 2005, Peter de Savary succeeded as chairman of Millwall Holdings plc and as chairman of Millwall F.C.. Stewart Till succeeded him on 3 May 2006 as the football club chairman, and de Savary remained as chairman of Millwall Holdings plc until October 2006.

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Upheaval, stability and first play-off success: 2005–2013
In 2005, Theo Paphitis announced that he was stepping down as chairman of the club with Jeff Burnige to replace him from May 2005. At the end of the 2004–05 season, manager Dennis Wise announced that he was leaving as he was unable to form a working relationship with the new chairman. Former Millwall striker Steve Claridge was announced as the new player-manager of Millwall. However, when Burnige then stepped down just two months after taking up the post, it was announced on 27 July that Claridge had been sacked after just 36 days, without ever taking charge of the team in a competitive match. Former Wolverhampton Wanderers manager Colin Lee replaced him but lasted only five months in charge of the club. In November 2005, Peter de Savary succeeded as chairman of Millwall Holdings plc and as chairman of Millwall F.C.. Stewart Till succeeded him on 3 May 2006 as the football club chairman, and de Savary remained as chairman of Millwall Holdings plc until October 2006. On 21 December, with the club bottom of the Championship, he became the club's Director of Football and was replaced as manager by 32-year-old player Dave Tuttle, on a short-term contract until the end of the 2005–06 season. Tuttle had no prior experience in football management. In February 2006, Lee left the club altogether. Millwall experienced a difficult season, having had four managers in 2005. Their 13 goals scored at home was the second worst in Football League history. Their relegation to League One was confirmed on 17 April 2006 with a 2–0 loss against Southampton. In the closed season Nigel Spackman was appointed as the new manager, but he lasted only four months after a string of bad results. In September 2006, Theo Paphitis (chairman from 1997 to 2005) ended his nine-year association with the club after a year-long spell as a non-executive director. On 19 March 2007, Willie Donachie signed a two-year contract following some progress which had seen the club climb to 11th place in the league. Before Donachie took charge, Millwall had taken only six points from their first ten games. In the 2007–08 season Millwall sat bottom of the table at the beginning of October. Donachie was sacked on 8 October, with Richard Shaw and Colin West becoming caretaker managers. Thetremors (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Goldsztajn (talk) 18:58, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

SVG logo
Shouldn’t a club as big as Millwall have an SVG logo, there are clubs in the seventh tier with a scalable vector graphics version, the PNG version looks extremely blurry on mobile. Joseph1891 (talk) 18:54, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

grenade on pitch at brentford in 60.s
this was thrown on by brentford supporters.the were losing 1-0 at the time ,from a hughie curran goal ,scored from his own half.it was near the halfway line.all us millwall supporters were behind the goal.someone came on with a bucket and removed it.chic brodie did not touch it. Beaufoy (talk) 08:33, 26 January 2023 (UTC)