Talk:Mishti doi

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Requested move 13 April 2017

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Moved &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Mishti Dai → Mishti doi – This page was recently moved from "Mitha dahi" to "Mishti Dai" but "Mishti doi" is the more commonly used form of this Bengali word. A Google search shows 25 times more results using "doi". A Google scholar search shows only 1 result for "mishti dai" but 83 results for "mishti doi". I don't think this will necessarily be controversial, but I thought it should be discussed in case someone else has another opinion. OtterAM (talk) 22:15, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Support Per nomVinegarymass911 (talk) 10:25, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Removal of sources
The source from The Daily Star is in every way a WP:RS. Please discuss it here before removing the sources. Za-ari-masen (talk) 01:05, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

,, , this is a continuation of a discussion started by Aman.kumar.goel on my user talk. , hope you will follow this discussion if any of us display any unacceptable behavior.

Aman.kumar.goel has expressed some concerns regarding the content here and other related articles which are as follow:

1) The Daily Star is not a WP:RS, it is not a peer reviewed academic article
 * My reply: The Daily Star is an obvious WP:RS since it is frequently cited by South Asia-related articles on Wikipedia, including featured articles like Dhaka, Satyajit Ray, Bengali Language Movement etc. There is no guideline or policy that says sources outside peer-reviewed academic articles cannot be used.

2) As Bangladesh was founded in 1971, it shouldn't be mentioned as the place of origin.
 * My reply: Modern Bangladesh was formed in 1971 that doesn't mean cuisine that originated here should avoid being called Bangladeshi. Also take a look at the featured article Gumbo that shows United States as the place of origin even when the origin of the soup predates the foundation of the United States. Same with Maple Syrup.

Please let me know where I'm wrong. Za-ari-masen (talk) 12:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Getting cited on a GA/FA without any problem doesn't make it an RS. It just might not be a perennial source but unless you are able to show us an RfC, you can't push it as an RS. Further as I told before, you can't push anything just "sourced". The concensus among majority of high quality sources have to be cited and news articles don't make a part of it.
 * 2) WP:SOFIXIT - Check good and featured articles if such mistakes are there.
 * Regards Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 04:58, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * 1. The Daily Star is a well-established news outlet and thus a reliable source. As it has been widely used as reference on Wikipedia, including featured articles, the consensus seems to be that it is acceptable as a WP:RS. If you want to challenge the status quo, feel free to start a discussion on the Reliable sources/Noticeboard. This might also open a whole new Pandora box to determine the reliability of all the South Asian news outlets as well as the notability of the articles dependent on these sources. You also failed to bring any source that contradicts what has been stated by The Daily Star, so this is not even a contentious content. If it becomes contentious, then we can talk about "consensus among majority of high quality sources" but presently, the only consensus seems to be Mishti Doi originated in Bogra District of present-day Bangladesh.
 * 2. There is nothing to fix, featured articles go through extensive peer-review by experienced editors and these are the ideal content to follow as a convention when existing guidelines are insufficient. This is the version of Gumbo when it was promoted to featured article status. Za-ari-masen (talk) 02:52, 18 July 2020 (UTC)