Talk:Model (person)/Archives/2014

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Section headings

The section headings currently in use on the page are highly redundant and (therefore) confusing.

This is the current structure:

History
Early years
The 1960s and the evolution of the industry
The 1970s and 1980s
The 1990s to present
Glamour models
Types of models
Fashion modelling
Runway modelling
Supermodels
Plus-size models
Glamour models
Gravure idols
Alternative models
Parts models
Fitness models
Commercial print and on camera models
Promotional models
Spokesmodels
Trade show models
Convention models
Art models
Salaries
Fashion models
Fashion print
Commercials
Runway modelling
Male models
Plus size models
Parts models
Fit modelling
Showroom modelling
Commercial print models
Glamour modelling
Promotional modelling
Art modelling
See also
References
External links

Note how "Glamour models", for example, appears in both the "History" and "Types of models" sections, and then "Glamour modelling" appears under "Salaries". Similar things could be said of most of the other types of models. Also notice how the naming of subsections under "Types of models" and "Salaries" is inconsistent — a mixture of "X models" and "X modelling" subsections are found in both sections. This is very confusing. At the very least, we should use "X models" only under one section and "X modelling" under another. Or, better yet, just merge the salary info into the appropriate subsections under "Types of models" (and use only "X models" for subsection names). I may "soon" start implementing the latter solution myself, unless someone has a better idea. - dcljr (talk) 04:35, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree that it's odd to have the "Glamour models" subsection under "History," but beyond that, I'm okay with the way the "Types of models" subsections are organized and that the topic of salaries is independent, as it's a legitimate topic in its own right - although all those headings in the salary section is overkill when you consider some of them are only one sentence and sourced to a dubious site.  Mbinebri  talk ← 18:15, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
I totally agree; came here to make a similar statement. In addition, I find the sub-headings which are nothing but refs to other articles less than enlightening, except to point out that the whole TOPIC (meaning at least half a dozen pages) probably needs serious attention. Many of those sub-heading redirects could just as easily be "See also" or ideally incorporated into the text flow of the related paragraph. For example, I specifically fail to see the distinction between Glamour modelling, Gravure idols (except that they seem to be Japanese glamour models,) and Pin-up girls (which is one of those contentless, redirect-only subheads I'm objecting to.) I feel as if anyone who came up with a different term decided to fork off a new sub-head instead of including the term with other, related terms in the appropriate paragraph. If I wasn't so busy I'd just be bold and take an axe to this article for some major surgery.--Eliyahu S Talk 05:54, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Move of page from Model (professional) to Model (people)

This was done for a number of reasons. wikimedia uses the address wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Models_(people) Many high profile models have other professions such as Sports person or Singer. Many models do modeling as one off jobs, For example Kate Middleton was a model even though this was not her profession. Many models such as art models are pulled into the work even if it has little connection to their truer vocations. The Wikipedia page for model has sections such as:

  • Model (abstract), a model made of the composition of concepts, that thus exists only in the mind
  • Model (economics), a theoretical construct representing economic processes
  • Model (physical), a smaller or larger physical copy of an object

In all cases the most general terms are used Gregkaye (talk) 11:25, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't the title be "Model (person)"?  Mbinebri  talk ← 04:39, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Request separate page related to models involved in fashion and advertising

Could this be done? Model (fashion and advertising)? or other title/s? I had wanted to make a link from a page relating to a character that adopted the role of fashion model a part time basis but was only able to link to this more general page which includes info on: Fetish Models, Plus size models, pinup girls, promotional models, glamour modelling each of which also have individual pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregkaye (talkcontribs) 11:38, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure why there would be separate pages for this. Fashion modeling is generally for advertising purposes in the first place.  Mbinebri  talk ← 04:37, 19 June 2014 (UTC)