Talk:Molly Hatchet

Citation Needed tag added
I have added a "Citation Needed" tag (As explained on the | Tagging a sentence page page) to the 1980s section of the Molly Hatchet article, like this:

When Brown was away from Hatchet, he later formed The Danny Joe Brown Band with future Molly Hatchet guitarist Bobby Ingram and guitarist Steve Wheeler, and was replaced by vocalist Jimmy Farrar, formerly of cover band Raw Energy of Fort Walton Beach, Florida.

Jimmy Farrar's home town is La Grange, Georgia, and many locals there remember Raw Energy as being active in that area as far back as 1978, so the Florida origin of that band is disputed.

I have sent messages to former surviving members of the Raw Energy band, Karl Bissett, former lead singer (before Jimmy Farrar) for the band, Phillip Turner, and the family of Jimmy Farrar himself, some or all of whom will be able for verify that the band originated in La Grange and not in Florida.

Will Dockery (talk) 05:14, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Band Name
It should be noted that several versions of the Hatchet Molly story are out there. No one seems to have been able to locate the original legend. See this page for some variations:

http://www.amiright.com/names/origins/m_1.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkolak (talk • contribs) 06:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

The infamous prostitute named "hatchett molly" is listed on the band's official website as the inspiration behind the name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhamiltonw (talk • contribs) 14:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Genre
I have added southern metal to the genres. If you disagree, take it off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.124.166.2 (talk) 16:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

From article
Found this spurious comment at the end of the article:


 * Danny Joe Brown was a vocalist and harmonica player for Hatchet, not a bassist. Other sources say his massive stroke occurred in 1998, not '95.

Do with it what you will. &mdash; Frecklefoot | Talk 17:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

did someone remove the picture? why?I am Paranoid 21:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It seems this Molly Hatchet article is in dire need or verified sources, citations, and so on, but the corrected mistakes are useless if they're going to be reverted back to the incorrect information almost immediately.

Will Dockery (talk) 06:24, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

DVD - Live in Hamburg
Did not see mention of the DVD Live in Hamburg - stupendous rock video that it is.

Available on Amazon. Recorded at the Harley Davison Festival 2004,This is quite an achievement when you consider that the band had just undergone radical personnel changes, with a new bass guitarist and the return of Hlubek as the second guitarist. But the star of the show, as it seems always, is Bobby Ingram on lead guitar who gives another stellar performance. Bobby puts everything into this act and some of the solos are noticeably superior to and more powerful than other versions I've heard. And there is a blistering guitar solo to introduce 'Dreams' which in itself also contains some pounding lead guitar work. Bobby deserves full praise for his courage as his wife had previously recently suddenly died.

The DVD has a bonus CD with the same concert recording but with reduced material for the sake of length.There are also bonus features with an interesting interview with Bobby.


 * 1) DVD Release Date: 26 Sep 2005
 * 2) Run Time: 125 minutes [not sure this is correct, my version is 135+ mins

Royzee (talk) 23:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Locked and loaded
What the...??? The link redirects here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.218.104.150 (talk) 23:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Bob and Tom
Would it be notable pop culture trivia that one of Bob and Tom's albums says that the drummer from Molly Hatchet can "suck his own dick?"

Raw Energy actually from La Grange, Georgia
The Raw Energy band actually originated in La Grange, Georgia, rather than Fort Walton Beach, Florida. I have changed this in the article to read: "...was replaced by vocalist Jimmy Farrar, formerly of cover band Raw Energy of La Grange, Georgia, Farrar's home town."

As Karl Bissett, a former member of the Raw Energy entourage wrote me: "...Ft Walton Beach, Florida? Not hardly. Not sure where they come up with that? The band played there back in the late 1970s but that's all the history I know of."

Will Dockery (talk) 18:53, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Raw Energy correction reverted back to mistake
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Molly_Hatchet&oldid=prev&diff=683765166 Well, Wikipedia will apparently not let the correction about Raw Energy's La Grange origin stand, Karl Bissett​, Phillip Turner​ (The lead singer for Raw Energy, also from La Grange, Georgia who Jimmy Farrar replaced before joining Molly Hatchet), and others reading this who know the facts. Possibly if members of the band, or Jimmy Farrar himself make the correction, it may stand/ If they say they "Need Verification" I have to then say who do they have to "verify" the mistake they're sticking with, saying Raw Energy was from Florida?

Here's the changes:

When Brown was away from Hatchet, he later formed The Danny Joe Brown Band with future Molly Hatchet guitarist Bobby Ingram and guitarist Steve Wheeler, and was replaced by vocalist Jimmy Farrar, formerly of cover band Raw Energy of La Grange, Georgia. Along with Farrar came a new approach to the band's sound. The earlier albums feature more variation in guitar tone and style and exhibit a distinct southern cultural influence – which changed with the addition of Farrar on vocals. By this time, acts such as Van Halen had made harder heavy metal-influenced rock popular in the 1980s. This fact was not lost on the band and their producer. Danny Joe Brown's stage persona, gruff voice and cowboy horse-whistling had matched well with the overtly southern-influenced sounds of his era. Farrar's new vocal style, mixed with a new harder-rocking sound saw Molly Hatchet enjoy a rise in popularity in the early 1980s. thumb|left|250px|Molly Hatchet dressed as Western gunslingers for a promo shoot in 1982

The correct facts, since changed back to the mistaken information. Jimmy Farrar's home town is La Grange, Georgia, and many locals there remember Raw Energy as being active in that area as far back as 1978, so the Florida origin of that band is disputed.

It seems that at the very least we need to added a "Citation" or "Verification" needed tag on the city of origin for Raw Energy, since the band is absolutely of La Grange, Georgia origin, and definitely not Florida.

I can look into making this change, or someone with more experience can do it for me, but the information as it stands, and has been reverted back to, is incorrect, and any citation or search for citation will verify this.

I am also sending out to the family of Jimmy Farrar to see if the singer himself wants to come set the mistake right, and make the article historically correct. Will Dockery (talk) 04:53, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Since neither city of origin of the band Raw Energy has been cited or verified as of yet, it seems the best policy to maintain accuracy is to not name a city of origin for that band at this time. Thus, any references to Raw Energy being from Florida should be omitted as is La Grange, Georgia, although it is a fact that Jimmy Farrar came from that city, and in fact was singing with a certain band based in that city when he joined Molly Hatchet.

Will Dockery (talk) 05:04, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Wikified content
I have gone through and rewrote sentences, and deleted others in this article, which is filled with personal opinions and "fan club" style writing, also added tags where references, cite, et cetera are needed... which are often.

There is much more editing needed here, if anyone is interested in getting this article up to standard.

Will Dockery (talk) 08:10, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Jimmy Farrar biography page on Wikipedia
| Jimmy Farrar Wiki

In the process of re-writing the Molly Hatchet article in Wikipedia, I see there's an empty slot where a biography of Jimmy Farrar should be... so this can be written. Someone who knows the details, birthdate, other details in the bio of Jimmy Farrar, follow the link here and type whatever you know, I'll come in later and edited, re-write, whatever is needed from that point.



Will Dockery (talk) 10:31, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Timeline
The timeline graphic suggests that Ralph Hardy is a current guitarist with the band, but he's not mentioned anywhere else in the article.

Also, Dave Hlubek isn't in the timeline graphic. --98.122.20.56 (talk) 20:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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Summary titles
UndergroundMan3000 says that "Titles like "rotating members" and "rotating more members" are better, not that your preferred version is useless or too much information, but they align with the fact that Molly Hatchet has had so many lineup changes that the band wasn't/isn't just all about the lead singers they've had".

I get the point, they had many musicians and not only singers. I used the frontmen just to identify the different eras of the band, as most fans do. But i can abdicate to this. Still i find it too repetitive this "rotating members" and "rotating more members", this also does not give justice to what MH is about. I don't want a dispute or a war, can i just suggest to change only the third paragraph in "Reformation under Bobby Ingram, rotating more members (1990-2005)"? (Ingram is obviously not a singer, but still to this day the rebuilder/owner of the brand). It seems to me a reasonable compromise. cheers and thanks. Cbp 444 (talk) 13:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)


 * still the contester does not answer to my proposal, i am afraid he will charge me with vandalism once again instead Cbp 444 (talk) 19:47, 1 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm not going to charge you of anything, but take a look at articles like AC/DC, Mötley Crüe, Megadeth, Testament, Suicidal Tendencies, UFO, etc., most of them don't have that that many titles mentioning a member leaving and coming back or whatever. Maybe titling them as "lineup changes" or something instead of "rotating members", etc. would be better if you are bothered by the latter. UndergroundMan3000 (talk) 01:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll try to follow this path, make me know if everything is ok. thanks man. Cbp 444 (talk) 04:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)