Talk:Morman

Morman was a dude???
I always thought morman was a type of religon thing that had to do with Christianity... GO JESUS!
 * See Mormon. Srnec (talk) 20:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Mormon (Not spelled Morman) was a hero in the 'Book of Mormon' (published around 1830) said to be a translation of an ancient record obtained and translated by Joseph Smith Jr.. Mormon was a strong leader in the 5th century who was defeated and killed.
 * Moroni, the son of Mormon, survived his father, stashed records after adding to them. These records are said to be the ones which Joseph Smith translated. The 'translation' includes accounts referring to Jesus. :Either a cult or a religion has sprung up based on Smith's work. It is controversial as to whether there were records or not. The Book of Mormon may have been fiction only.
 * The man Morman the Breton that the article is about is in no way connected with Mormon. RCNesland RCNesland (talk) 06:32, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Historical Parzival?
I just have read in the National Quarterly Review, Vol. XVI, Dec. 1867-Mar. 1868 (ed. Edward I. Sears, L.L. D.), New York 1868, available online at https://archive.org/details/nationalquarter07unkngoog, in the article Mediaeval German Literature — Eschenbach pp. 139-140 that the person might be connected with Eschenbach's poem and medieval legend in general. The article states that "''(...) the romantic Sir Parcival was created out of a certain Morvan Lez Breiz, of Brittany, who lived in the ninth century, and is celebrated in numerous ballads as the hero of many fights against Louis the Pious. The ballads tell how young Morvan was raised by his mother in strict seclusion from the world — she intending to keep him ignorant of its turmoils and battles — but how the child once went into the lorest, and there met a knight, whom it took to be an angel; how the knight spoke kindly to the child, and thus awakened in the boy's heart a passionate desire for knightly adventures; how, finally, the boy ran away from home, and became the successful knight known in history. But when, alter ten years of adventure, he returned to his home, he found that his mother had died of a broken heart. These few circumstances — all of which we meet again in the story of Parcival — will show how natural it was for legendary lore to connect Morvan, the boy so ignorant of the world, and yet so evidently longing to become a knight-errant, with the glorious Round Table, and to attribute many circumstances, ascribed in immemorial fairy tales to marvellous simpletons, to this simple-hearted hero. In this, his earliest legendary shape, we meet Morvan in some old English manuscripts as Parcival the Crusader, who died in the Holy Land; and in the Welsh Mabinogian as Peredur, the son of Evrawc.''"

I have no idea, how much of the above passage may be still considered as probable or true, since the text was written about 150 years ago, but I met with this theory first time and it seems too me very interesting indeed. However I do not feel competent enough to mention this thesis in the article, I still think it might be perchance good to include it in some paragraph, so if someone would prefer to do this instead of me, feel free to use the source, as the mentioned article (as the whole review) is obviously not in copyright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubor Sanguinis (talk • contribs) 10:39, 16 February 2014 (UTC)