Talk:Motorized bicycle/Archive 9

Proposed merges
I, for one, think both merges should take place. &mdash;  Who 123 20:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Another article (Series Hybrid Cycles) on the same subject has been found, and should be merged into this article. WVhybrid 17:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I think that the topic of (Series Hybrid Cycles) will grow with time and should not be merged into the text of (Motorized bicycle). Technically, motorized bicycles are mainly parallel hybrids regardless of whether the propulsion is electric or by internal combustion engine. So series hybrids and parallel hybrids are distinct. Andreas Fuchs 29 December 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.3.32.128 (talk) 18:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC).


 * For the moment, merging Series Hybrid Cycles with Motorized bicycle would seem appropriate, but for this it would need to be shortened. Alternatively it could as Andreas suggests be expanded to generalise the concept and provide more information on existing vehicles. But then the title is too specific and should be changed to Electronic vehicle transmission or something.


 * Regarding Electric_power-assist_system, this article is far too basic to do justice to the large field and is in urgent need of considerable expansion. Perhaps Series Hybrid Cycles could then be merged into this. Maybe Motorized bicycle is the best target for all these merges, but the question is how long a Wikipedia article should become.


 * There is a further problem that there are quite a few related articles such as Electric motorcycles and Scooters, Battery electric vehicle, Electric vehicle and others having to do with this and similar concepts. The whole field really needs going over and perhaps some kind of portal page created, as several of these aren't correctly linked to each other. It's difficult to classify these vehicles. We have electric vs. combustion vs. human power, single power vs. hybrid, series vs. parallel, two wheels vs multi-track, lightweight vehicles vs cars, land vehicles vs boats and so on. --Theosch 11:30, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Series hybrid cycles has since been deleted. I used some of the information and expanded the previous stub Hybrid-electric bicycle which is now also being considered for deletion. I've also noted that Pedelec was deleted following a lengthy disscussion. The merging of Electric_power-assist_system is still open. All these things are part of the same problem. This is a field with many facets which encourages forking. Guy is doing his best to prevent too much forking and/or redundancy and CyclePat is doing his best to prevent too much information being lost. Both these methods are necessary but coming from opposite sides seem to generate a conflict. This conflict has resulted in some good names being used as redirects and people using new poor names for new stuff. I think we can sort this out to everybody's satisfaction but it will take some time, quite a bit of work, and a kind of overall plan rather than fighting about individual articles. I've only come here recently but hope to be able to help out with this. I know quite a lot about small electric vehicles without having any business interests. I don't know so much about Wikipedia yet, but please bear with me. Anyway, yes, this merge should take place because the name "Electric_power-assist_system" is a bit cumbersome and non-descriptive. --Theosch 19:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Image suggestion
It would be helpful to include a picture of a contemporary electric bike with small hub motor such as a Giant or Ezee. &mdash;  Who 123 10:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Merge is a bad idea
Imho.

Otherwise this page will become lost within the much larger topic of the 'History of Bike'. Let's retain this useful info on its own page, i reckon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)