Talk:Motorized scooter

Style Concerns
Should the introduction to this article sound like an essay? Why is it making a prescriptive claim about balancing the interests of scooter advocates and safety advocates? I came here to learn what a motorized scooter is, not to think deeply about scooter ethics.

Different reader here. Yes it is written like a high school debate essay, and does not take have an informational non-sided stand. It attempts to convince and goes into too much detail about scooter safety and things people and organizations can do to improve safety. It needs rewritten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:C02A:9314:399F:C11E:7170:4D64 (talk) 18:20, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Proposed merge
The pages Scooter (motorcycle) and Motorized scooter seem to be redundant. While the former is the superior article, the latter appears to be the more appropriate name. Indeed, the category is named Motor scooters. Propose to merge Scooter (motorcycle) into the page titled Motorized scooter. Gjs238 07:34, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


 * If you've read even a few sentences, you'll see that Scooter (motorcycle) and Motorized scooter are not even close to being the same thing. I'm removing the merge messages because the merge would not make any sense at all.Spylab 11:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)Spylab


 * Though this article attempts to echo Scooter (motorcycle) under what was assumed to be a more accurate title, "motorized scooter" is the term used to refer to a kick scooter (i.e. Razor) equipped with a gas or electric motor. (See CA Vehicle Codes for ref.) This is quite different than a "motor scooter." "Scooter (motorcycle)" is the least confusing title, as the US DOT defines "scooter" as a type of motorcycle. Ealmendral (talk) 04:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Surely this page should be merged into Scooter(Stand-up)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.30.232.1 (talk) 07:40, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree and am unsure why this action has not already been performed. --EpochFail (talk) 17:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I disagree, although the motorized scooter is called a "scooter", it really isn't (it's a kick bike design, that is motorized), it has little in common with a regular scooter. Perhaps rename to "Motorized kick bike" ?
 * I disagree with the merger, the distinction seems that one stands up on this and sits down on a Scooter (motorcycle). I also note that Scooter (stand-up) is a redirect to the scooter disambiguation page. This device does also seem to be different from Electric kick scooter (which is also tagged for this merge btw) which are smaller, lighter and possibly closer to a kids toy than these. PeterEastern (talk) 07:29, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

I have removed the merge banner as there was no consensus. That does not however mean that we could review this again in the future. PeterEastern (talk) 07:39, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Links
Perhaps we can add these links, or make a Comparison of kick bikes page ?
 * http://www.gas-scooters-on-the-web.com/neo-scooter-gas-scooter-comparison-chart.html
 * http://www.neoscooters.com/compare_gas_scooters.asp
 * http://www.bombayharbor.com/Product/4255/Gas_Powered_Scooter.html
 * http://www.puzey.co.za/Page/7/Products
 * electric motorized scooter: http://www.falconmobility.com/motorised_kick_scooters.htm
 * 4 stroke scooters: http://www.neoscooters.com/compare_gas_scooters.asp
 * http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Gas-scooter-EPA-4-stroke-engine_573598886/showimage.html
 * DIY gas scooter: http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Gas-Scooter
 * comparison with motorized skateboard: http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=53

4-stroke gas scooters should be mentioned as these can be made to run on ethanol or biobutanol. A see also link can be added to compare to motorized skateboards


 * I intend to create a Personal transporter article to cover all the devices in the Category:Personal transporters which has a slightly different focus, but would allow us to compare a variety of difference devices in one place. Thoughts? PeterEastern (talk) 07:42, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I have now create the Personal transporter article and associated category. PeterEastern (talk) 09:12, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Scope of article
What should be the scope of this article? In particular:
 * Should it only be for for Internal combustion engine devices, or should it include electric vehicles as well?
 * Should it be for devices which are exclusively used standing up, or also some where a seat is provided?

If we include electric scooters, then where is the dividing line between these and electric kick scooter, and if we include devices designs to be used in a seated position, then where is the dividing line between these and scooter (motorcycle)?

My current view is that the scope should include
 * Gas-powered scooters that are ridden standing up
 * Non-folding electrically-powered scooters
 * Scooters with a small auxiliary seat that don't fit more appropriately in scooter (motorcycle).

Thoughts?

- PeterEastern (talk) 09:52, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

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Name change suggestion
I am recommending we change Motorized scooter to Motorized kick scooter because a Motorized scooter is a Kick scooter with a Motor. A Scooter (motorcycle) is something different--Wyn.junior (talk) 18:42, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

South Park
The South Park episode The Scoots parodies the popularity of scooter-sharing systems and e-scooters. Is this relevant for the article? --2003:E4:9F47:1B00:50DB:2879:A39E:C3AD (talk) 10:08, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

This article is strange to me, an electric scooter enthusiast
I work in the industry, talk daily with the top electric scooter youtube channels by subscribers. I'm experienced with just about every mass produced electric scooter out there. But this article reads oddly.

First, "motorized scooter" is a legal term which specifically excludes electric scooters, in California law. California is home to much of the North American electric scooter industry. In other places, motorized and electric can mean the same thing, but it's strange to summarily lump them together like this article does.

Second, electric scooters are generally referred to as "Personal Electric Vehicles" in California. Yet, there is no Wikipedia article at all for this term. Nor even any sort of grouping for them. It's a term widely used in the industry to refer to electric stand-up scooters, electric unicycles, electric bicycles, and electric skateboards. They are also referred to as "last mile vehicles" referring to how commonly they're used by commuters utilizing subways and park and rides.

Generally, electric vehicles that cannot be lifted whatsoever, like electric vespas or motorcycles over 100 lbs, are excluded from the term PEV and last mile vehicle.

I'll try to work on these issues with references.

Habanero-tan (talk) 19:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for doing this!! :) 2600:1014:B050:76F6:4DD:3FDF:6BD1:6B9C (talk) 03:05, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Poland
Traffic Law Act has been updated and now it contains the definition of electric scooter. Max speed is 20 kph on public roads and bike lanes. On pavement you may ride only if there is no bike lane and speed limit is over 30 (with velocity similar to pedestrians'). Transportation of cargo, animal or another person is prohibited. Weight limit is proposed to 25 kg (will be regulated in Regulation of Minister of Transportation).

https://orka.sejm.gov.pl/Druki9ka.nsf/0/3261FB56C7479160C12586700030D22B/$File/911.pdf

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