Talk:Mourne Wall

Height
Is the height figure correct for the wall 2.5 metres seems extreme as in the image it only looks about about 1 m high.--Padraig 17:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I've been round it, though not recently, and as far as I can remember the average height would be about 6 foot. You can generally look over it without too much effort. 2.5 metres is apparently 8'2" - there are only a few places where the wall would be as tall, for example along the Bog of Donard, and that long bit with the whins on either side. Maybe it just looked taller there because we had to walk along the top of it at those points! I'm not sure about the 1m width quoted in the article either. It would be good to have some sort of citation for the dimensions. 89.248.21.9 10:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the height is well under 2.5 meters. I've edited the page to conform with the information concerning the wall which I've found on the back of the "Mourne Mountains" Ordnance Survey of Northern Ireland map. While walking along the wall at the Bog of Donard, I found myself able to look over it in most places by pulling myself up a little (I am 6 feet tall). Amd194 (talk) 11:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

But...why was it built?
Two statements in the article attempt to describe why the wall was built:

The Mourne Wall...was constructed to enclose a reservoir's catchment area

and

the main purpose of enclosing the area was to isolate the catchment area from the effects of cattle and sheep on the water course.

It remains unclear precisely why this expense was deemed necessary. What effects of cattle and sheep, precisely, was the catchment area being protected from? It is not usual to create costly walls at high elevations where rivers originate, and coexist with grazing animals. The article would be more instructive if this vague matter was clarified.

--174.16.23.1 (talk) 15:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Length
The blog post "Mourne Mountain Mythical Measurements" referenced in this article explains clearly and convincingly the factors, methods and processes behind arriving at an accurate length for the Mourne Wall. Kieron Gribbon, author of the blog post, suggests readers measure the wall for themselves using the Spatial NI map viewer. My curiosity got the better of me, so I gave it a go to arrive at 29.9 km, converting as 18.6 miles. This concurs with the flat distance of under 19 miles measured by the author. From my own careful analysis of the blog post, I am of the opinion that the author's conclusion should be regarded as the truth until proven otherwise. One of this article's editors added the statement "There is no factual information available on the actual length of the wall so citations of it's true length is just hearesay". I disagree with this statement because Kieron Gribbon has gathered and presented all the necessary evidence to support his conclusion. The editor's statement conflicts with a thoroughly researched referenced fact and adds nothing to this article. The same editor also added superfluous statistics about a referenced walking route which does not adhere to the course of the Mourne Wall. This irrelevant information could easily distract from the factual content of this article and cause confusion. I walked the whole Mourne Wall four times: 1979, 1987, 1990 and 1998, each time by the correct route as illustrated in Kieron Gribbon's blog post. IrelandEdits (talk) 21:59, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Mourne Wall challenge walks
The purpose of this article is to provide factual information about the Mourne Wall and it is worth mentioning that it provides the basis for one of Ireland's greatest endurance walking challenges. One of the article's editors seems quite insistent on adding statistics about a specific version of the challenge walk which includes significant diversions along approximately 10% of the wall's actual route. These statistics are distracting from the relevant facts and could cause confusion. Attempts to remove this superfluous and conflicting information have failed. As a result, the article has been adapted so these statistics can be included as a means of highlighting the existence of alternative versions of the challenge which do not adhere rigidly to the actual route of the wall. IrelandEdits (talk) 14:07, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately the Mourne Wall challenge walk section of this article keeps being vandalised by an editor who appears to be on personal mission and is unwilling to compromise. The pure focus of that mission is quite clearly to disprove the research findings reported in the referenced blog post "Mourne Mountain Mythical Measurements" and referring to it in a distinctly negative and condescending tone. I have done all I possibly can to reach a compromise by keeping all relevant points made in the article while removing negative, ranting and aggressive wording. However, each time the editor either undoes previous edits, restores the original wording or adds different arguments. The editor also has a tendency to go off on a tangent by introducing irrelevant information and arguments. I feel the article has been ruined and that administrative intervention is now required. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IrelandEdits (talk • contribs) 08:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)