Talk:Muhammad bin Ladin

Crash info
Your article concerning Binladen is incorrect. Mohammed Bin Laden did not die in San Antonio, Tx, he died in a air plane crash in Saudi on his way to a construction project.


 * The above anon. User:70.32.84.133 attempted to substitute "an ultralight" for the plane crashed by Salem bin Laden in San Antonio, Texas 1988, at Bin Laden family. He was in fact flying a BAC 1-11, a short-range jet airliner which had been bought in July 1977 by Prince Mohammed Ben Fahd (PBS "Frontline"). That plane's flight log had been a subject of some interest because the same plane was said to have been used in the summer of 1980 by negotiators in the so-called "October Surprise" (the alleged conspiracy by Ronald Reagan's supporters to delay resolution of the Iran Hostage Crisis until after the US presidential election). An ultralight would be impractical for a London-Madrid hop; a BAC 1-11 ideal. A very interesting attempted switch. --Wetman 04:47, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

As the above states, the information in the article is inconsistent.

The NTSB summary report states that the event occurred Wednesday, May 29, 1968 in SAN ANTONIO, TX in a BEECH 95-C55 due to ENGINE FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION

while the article states that: Mohammed bin Laden was killed On September 3,1967 when his Beechcraft crashed in southwest Saudi Arabia.

Salem bin Laden was killed on May 29, 1988 when his ultra-light aircraft crashed in San Antonio Texas.

With an error such as that in an accident report it is no wonder there are conspiracy theories about this. How could the NTSB possibly confuse the details of the accidents? - they should not of had any knowledge of the accident that occurred 31 years earlier in a foreign country.
 * There appears to be no NTSB report for either accident. Assuming that the 1968 report is mislabeled is original research. --Dhartung | Talk 03:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * NYT says he crashed in Texas. Something's wrong. -- Y not? 03:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The book cited in the article contradicts the NYT... -- Y not? 14:51, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind, NYT corrected it. Now it doesn't say Texas anymore.  I pronounce this discussion I just had with myself concluded. -- Y not? 14:52, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Death date
According to Aljazeera website, he contributed in 1969 to the rebuilt of the Al-Aqsa Mosque after it was burned (in August). Most sources said he died in 1970. 

Which son was Osama?
The Osama Bin Laden article puts him as the seventeenth son "Various accounts place Osama as his seventeenth son" but this article says 16th, both unsourced. Some consistency would be good here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.4.192.102 (talk) 22:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Lover?
Was he lover of King Abdulaziz? 93.80.241.49 (talk) 17:20, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Confused
Why is there a photo and template for Osama bin Laden at the bottom of this page? 148.177.1.211 (talk) 13:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This article is closely associated with Osama bin Laden because Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden was Osama's father. It's mentioned in the article and the template. -- Irn (talk) 15:15, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

1967 crash (again)
Restarting discussion rather than adding to the 11-year-old thread. Does anyone have additional published information about the 1967 plane crash? Aviation-safety.net says 3 Sep 1967, Beechcraft G18S, aircraft registration HZ-IBN, msn BA-493, at the Usran airstrip; however, within the Wikipedia aviation community, ASN is not generally viewed as satisfying WP:RS, and the source for the ASN entry is apparently a Canadian web forum, definitely dicey and WP:USERGENERATED. Additionally, HZ-IBN was the registration code of the aircraft involved in the 2015 Blackbushe Phenom 300 crash which killed three other members of the bin Laden family, and this seems like a dubious coincidence to me (like someone was indiscriminately combing Google and scrambled the information). I've tried checking the Saudi General Authority of Civil Aviation website for info about the 1967 crash but I can't read Arabic. Carguychris (talk) 14:35, 20 October 2022 (UTC)