Talk:Murder of Luca Attanasio

Nominated for ITN
Notice to other editors, the article was nominated to ITN today. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:26, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Assassination?
It seems to have been a failed kidnapping, I don't think 'assassination' is the correct term here. Jr8825 •  Talk  17:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * This is being discussed here. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 02:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 9 March 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vaticidalprophet 18:31, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Assassination of Luca Attanasio → Killing of Luca Attanasio – The use of the term "assassination" has been discussed at Talk:Luca Attanasio. It now seems to be quite clear that the attack was not meant as an execution, as also the prosecutor in the case has stated explicitly. Not one of the English language sources in the article use the term, and the term is not even used in the article apart from the title, the infobox and the categories. T*U (talk) 09:45, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Strong support as per the discussion mentioned, it is not an assassination An assassination is the "the act of deliberately killing someone especially a public figure, usually for money or for political reasons"- but there was no deliberate pre-meditated attempt to kill him, it was just a kidnapping gone wrong. And assassination is not the term used in English language sources, and so is not the WP:COMMONNAME. If Italian language sources call it an assassination, that is up to them, but almost all English language sources do not. This is the English language Wikipedia, and WP:COMMONNAME should match English language sources rather than translations of Italian sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Strong support per this quote from the prosecutor: "What we know for certain is that it was not an execution. It was a gun fight, the ambassador and the carabiniere were hit by two bullets each." AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - Article creator per reason by u|AllegedlyHuman. Elijahandskip (talk) 21:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Assassination of Luca Attanasio → Shooting of Luca Attanasio per other "Shooting of..." entries under Category:Firearm deaths by country. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 10:14, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This proposal is fine by me. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:40, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I would not mind too much, either. I see, however, that news media tend to use the term "killing of" rather then "shooting of" when referring to it, so I still would prefer the first. Actually, even "assassination of" is found more than "shooting of", but mostly when referring to official Italian reactions or with ties to this Wiki article. Whatever the result, there should be a redirect from the other alternative. In other Wiki articles, there are quite a number of redirects from "killing of" to "shooting of" as well as the opposite way. --T*U (talk) 11:17, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Either is definitely an improvement; however, there are "shooting of" articles which are non-fatal as well, so I would prefer "killing of". AllegedlyHuman (talk) 17:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support. This was not an assassination and no English-language media refers to it as one. Gnominite (talk) 17:57, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Trevi conglomerate

 * Death of the Italian ambassador in the DRC: a political assassination?
 * https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevi_Group
 * https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevi_(azienda) --91.54.10.7 (talk) 17:10, 26 June 2022 (UTC)