Talk:Murder of the Notorious B.I.G.

Rationale for keeping page
This article was proposed for deletion. I feel it should be kept by analogy with Murder of Tupac Shakur, which was also PROD'ed but kept. Additionally, the main article is substantially larger than ideal. I propose (and will start working on) moving some of the content from the main article to this page.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  08:43, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Per Splitting, I wanted to integrate information from the main article into this article. I noticed that this article is written in a summary style, while the main page currently covers his death in detail. So I'm going to go ahead and switch the contents of this article with that section.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  09:21, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

How much did the Wallace family actually sue for? $400 million or $500 million?

What is going with this case today? Is it still an open investigation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macleandkirk (talk • contribs) 20:13, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Rename
Should we rename this article to Murder of The Notorious B.I.G.? On the one hand, it would match Murder of Tupac Shakur. On the other hand, it seems a bit clumsy to my ears. Thoughts?  Λυδ α  cιτγ  08:44, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

After a bit of thought, I believe the best name for this page would be Murder of Christopher Wallace, since it was a human being who was killed, not a rapper, and since it was definitely a murder. If no one objects, I'll move this page to that one.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  08:55, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

not neutral
article sounds like it's trying real hard to delegitimise the poole/alexander/moore/shakur theory that DRR+LAPD had something to do with the deaths of biggie and tupac. Chuck Philips is mentioned several times, especially as the one who is responsible for destroying the poole theory or whatever. But nothing is said about his article being dead wrong, using a lying informant (sabatino) and getting retracted.

Amir Muhammed aka Harry Billups by the way was seen the night biggie was killed by biggie's body guard Deal who is featured on that Nick Bromfield (?) documentary. Deal sees a picture of Amir Muhammed which matches two composite sketches of the alleged murderer (one sketch I think Lil Cease gave) cops drew up, and Deal picks it out as the guy he saw shortly before driving off with biggie. Hammonds, another informant also talks about Amir Muhammed and it goes on and on.

Now it doesn't matter which theory you want to agree with, the point of the article is to PRESENT BOTH OR ALL THEORIES WITHOUT CLEARLY SIDING WITH ONE and in this article it's clear whoever edited it, is either on Suge's/Wright's payroll or more interested in promoting one and delegitimising the other. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.143.139 (talk) 09:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Please add some sourced information to this article about that article being wrong, getting retracted, etc. Thanks!  Λυδ α  cιτγ  06:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 20 June 2017

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The result of the move request was: page moved Dr Strauss   talk  06:22, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Murder of Christopher Wallace → Murder of The Notorious B.I.G. – consistency with parent article The Notorious B.I.G. -Prisencolin (talk) 18:44, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination and per WP:COMMONNAME. &mdash;Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:56, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Support – Totally makes sense, per WP:COMMONNAME and the WP:CONSISTENCY provision of WP:AT policy. — JFG talk 21:22, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * We also have Murder of Tupac Shakur, not Murder of Lesane Parish Crooks… — JFG talk 21:24, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Support Most recognisable name/pseudonym too.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 16:51, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:CONPRIME. bd2412  T 03:30, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


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Include image
I think the article should include images of Biggie instead of just a picture of the museum. Readers should be able to see what he looked like if they're interested in reading about his death. --Chen1649 (talk) 04:55, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Infobox "accused"
Should the infobox name an individual or individuals as "accused"? If so, who?

This has been a dispute among some editors of this article for at least several months if not longer. Please discuss to reach a consensus. Until then, please do not add an "accused" field to the infobox, as the stable version of the article did not include it. Adumbrativus (talk) 05:15, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Wrongful death suit 2002 2006 confusion
Hi in the beginning of the article it says in 2006, Wallace's mother filed a $400 million wrongful death lawsuit against the Los Angeles Police Department, but the wrongful death lawsuit was filed in April 2002. I'm thinking maybe it was increased to $400 million in 2006? Anybody got any answers --Aaron106 (talk) 08:29, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Changed the year from 2006 to 2007. Apparently this is when they filed the second lawsuit and they were join by Faith Evans and Biggie's two children https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.5134/title.wallace-family-files-another-wrongful-death-suit-against-la --Aaron106 (talk) 19:13, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Boldening of Billups
User:YesSimon keeps boldening Billups as a suspect despite being routinely told to stop. What are we supposed to do here? TheXuitts (talk) 23:28, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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