Talk:Music for a Time of War/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Bruce1ee (talk · contribs) 13:25, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll be reviewing this nomination, and I'll follow up here with my findings over the next couple of days. —Bruce1eetalk 13:25, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much. Looking forward to your comments. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:22, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * See comments below ...
 * B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
 * See comments below ...
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. Has an appropriate reference section:
 * B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
 * See comments below ...
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * See comments below ...
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * See comments below ...
 * B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * See comments below ...
 * B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Pass or Fail:


 * Comments
 * 1A.
 * In the lead infobox, Sanford Sylvan is listed as a guest musician, yet nowhere in the article does it say he was a guest.
 * Done. Added "guest" to lead and Program section. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Lead section: "The recording sessions marked the Oregon Symphony's first performances ...", why are they called "recording sessions", they were live performances that happened to have been recorded?
 * Done. Changed "recording sessions" to "concerts". Changed the order of the lead a bit in the process. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Lead section: "In October 2011 the recording was released by Dutch record label", suggest adding "on CD" after "released".
 * Done. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Lead section: "... the recording debuted at number 31 on Billboard's Classical Albums chart. The album made several lists of the best classical recordings of 2011.", suggest joining these two sentences, "... Billboard's Classical Albums chart, and made several lists ...".
 * Done. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Program: "The existential composition ...", I think "existential" should be quoted, just as "ambiguous" is, to show it is the source's interpretation of the work, otherwise it could be seen as POV; but I'm open to suggestion.
 * Done. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Program: "Boult considered this dissonant work ...", as above, I think "dissonant" should be quoted, or say that the program described the work as "dissonant"; again I'm open to suggestion.
 * Done. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Performances and broadcasts/Reception: The section refers to Sylvan's vocals – did he sing (or recite), the Personnel section makes no mention of this?
 * I think "baritone" itself implies vocal performance, not poem recitation. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Oops, my mistake, sorry. —Bruce1eetalk 06:39, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Album: "Music for a Time of War was released through the Dutch record label", suggest adding "on CD" after "released".
 * Done. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Album: "John Newton and Jesse Lewis were the recording engineers mastering and authoring was conducted by Jesse Brayman.", should there be a comma or semicolon between "engineers" and "mastering"?
 * Done. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Album: "... totals nearly 78 minutes in length.", the infobox says it's 78:04 – perhaps "nearly" should be replaced with something like "just over".
 * Done. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Close paraphrasing/copyright violations: everything seems fine, except for one small thing – the article uses the phrase "emotional engagement", which is also used in the source, which could be seen as a little too close.
 * Done. Hmm, that does not seem like something I would write without including quotation marks. I won't take the time to determine if that was my mistake or if a change was made to the article by another editor. Thanks! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)


 * 1B.
 * I think the Lead section could be expanded a little by adding the live radio broadcasts on KQAC and WQXR-FM.
 * Done. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)


 * 2B.
 * www.portlandsocietypage.com (currently ref.48) is a dead link.
 * Done. Added archiveurl and archivedate using Internet Archive. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * www.therestisnoise.com is a blog, but the author, Alex Ross, is a notable music critic writing for a notable publication, The New Yorker, so that should be fine.
 * Right. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:22, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com is a blog, but it's published in a notable publication, The New York Times, so I guess it's ok.
 * Right. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:22, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Extensive use is made of a couple of primary references (www.orsymphony.org, www.soundmirror.com) but the article is backed up by many secondary sources, so that doesn't appear to be a problem.
 * Right. Thanks. The Symphony sources are used mostly for program information, personnel, dates, etc. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:22, 20 February 2013 (UTC)


 * 4.
 * At first glance it bothered me that the article heaps so much praise on the Oregon Symphony, which could be seen as being biased towards them. But most of this praise is supported by reliable secondary sources, and if there just wasn't any bad press, I guess then the article can't be seen as being biased.
 * Agreed. Bias is always a concern of mine, but I think the article accurately reflects how the subject was perceived. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:22, 20 February 2013 (UTC)


 * 6A.
 * File:Ives-adams-rvw-britten.jpg: the copyright status tagging for Adams is missing/broken.
 * Done. Image licenses and copyright rules are not my specialty, but images were addressed in the peer review article, so please take a look for context. I copied over the license tags from the Adams image page to the collage image page. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Music for a Time of War, Oregon Symphony.jpg: please add "|image has rationale=yes" to the license template.
 * Done. Please let me know if any image-related concerns still need to be addressed. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Please have a look at the above issues I've found. Otherwise, it's a nicely written article with a good coverage of the subject. —Bruce1eetalk 14:04, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your time and assistance. I am in the process of addressing your concerns. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:23, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe I have addressed all of your concerns. Please review my changes and let me know if you have any other comments or concerns. Again, thank you so much. More work on this article remains, but I am so proud of its current state and have several Wikipedians to thank for their assistance, yourself included. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Everything looks fine now, I've promoted it to GA. Thanks for your fixes and all your hard work on this article. I've enjoyed doing this review and it's been a pleasure working with you. —Bruce1eetalk 06:39, 21 February 2013 (UTC)