Talk:Naked

Keeping one
Out of the three terms: Nude; Naked; Stripped, "Naked" is the most NPOV (i.e. it's right in the middle of the continuum).

Thus if keeping only one of these, I think it would make most sense to keep the one right in the middle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.49.77.82 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 23 September 2004 (UTC)


 * "Nude" seems neutral to me, more than "naked", which may sound a bit negative.--Patrick 00:19, 2004 Oct 23 (UTC)


 * "Nude" implies a positive point of view (see below): Glogger 14:24, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Also, "Nude" is being censored in other links to Wikipedia. For example, http://www.all-science-fair-projects.com/science_fair_projects_encyclopedia/Swimming_pool has censored "Nude" but has not censored "Naked".  Part of the reason may be that "Naked" is a neutral point of view (factual) term, whereas "Nude" is certainly not neutral, i.e. "Nude" calls to mind nudism, nudes, nude photos, and thus carries with it an unnecessarily positive (pro-nudist) bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 09:46, 11 November 2004 (UTC) (talk • contribs) 65.49.77.82

Cultural differences?
It might be worth it for someone to add a little more information about how different cultures view nakedness/nudity/etc. What's here now seems like a pretty western viewpoint. Some countries and cultures are quite a bit less bothered by nudity. Doozer 05:21, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

encyclopedic value
until someone can maybe add some sort of history or perspective to this article, im marking it for wiktionary as its basically so far a set of definitions with nothing really interesting, insightful, or very informational. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Urthogie (talk • contribs) 04:02, 5 October 2004 (UTC)

Section
The covering of furniture legs in the Victorian era was probably more to protect them against damage than from anything against nudity (otherwise horses' legs would have been covered). There is a case for wiktionary with links, noting that different cultures/time periods have different attitudes. The comment on the US Presidents is irrelevant/prurient (and an indicator of the lack of security required). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.85.6.26 (talk • contribs) 11 October 2004 (UTC)

Duplicate of Nudity
Check out Nudity article. I suggest we either consolidate Naked and Nudity or start some more articles like Nude, Without Clothing, Bare-Assed, and In Your Birthday Suit. User:MPS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.159.147.77 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 12 October 2004


 * Nude implies some artistic value, and is at an extreme point of view along the nude-naked-stripped continuum. I think there is value in the neutral point of view of "naked" as a basis for an article.  If anything, perhaps the contents of both nude and stripped should be merged into the article entitled naked, to maintain neutrality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Glogger (talk • contribs) 13:36, 24 October 2004 (UTC)

activities
this might be silly .. though anyway ..

like to list some activities that some tend to do like sleeping naked, finnish saunas, bathing .. they all were mentioned in the doubling article Nudity though not that accentuated .. another aspect of nudity or sexuality would be self liberation of bounds or taboo break up that is not that often referenced to .. the reference possibly also shaded esp. in conservative environments like religions as ex the clerical fig leaf cover project ..

--Ebricca 16:14, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Naked as neutral point of view from the nude-naked-stripped continuum
Nude implies a positive spin, often a positive artistic spin, whereas stripped implies a negative spin. Naked is neutral (right in the middle) and implies neither a good or bad connotation to being without clothing. When we say "the naked truth" we mean the truth and nothing but the truth, whereas "the nude truth" would, in my opinion, imply an unnecessarily positive artistic value-added element that would take away its neutrality. So if there's room for all three (nude, naked, stripped) that's great, but if we must consolidate into only one, how about choosing the one that's most NPOV... Glogger 13:42, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Clarity of "naked" (whereas "nude" needs disambiguation)
Naked has a precise and neutral meaning, whereas "nude" requires disambiguation, i.e. it can mean "artistically naked" or it can also refer to a genre of art, i.e. "nudes". Glogger 14:26, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Merged with Nudity
I've executed a merger of this page into Nudity, taking what material I could incorporate from this page into that one, and reorganising it somewhat in the process. I believe the usage of both naked and nude (and variations thereof) in the resulting article represents a non-POV treatment of the subject (though of course the text itself may have remaining biases). Tverbeek 19:51, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * I agree. -- JHunterJ (talk) 03:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Redirecting redirect to Naked (disambiguation)
Naked used to redirect to Nudity (for no apparent reason other than, at some point, the two articles were merged). I'm redirecting to Naked (disambiguation).

While none of the articles from the Nudity page are particularly "more important" than any other, they're all more relevant to the term "Naked" than "Nudity" is. No native English speaker would look up an encyclopedia article on an adjective—instead they would search for Nakedness or (of course) Nudity. Anyone arriving at the Naked page is looking for one of the topics on the disambiguation page. Giving them a general article on Nudity is counterintuitive.

In the case that someone IS looking for the general article on Nudity, however, it's right up top the Naked disambiguation page.

While Naming conventions (adjectives) doesn't specifically mention this topic, its talk page does, and provides precedent examples of other pages where the adjective is more likely to refer to proper nouns than a general noun, such as British.

If you feel things were better the old way, voice your opinions here, we'll do a vote, and revert it if I'm alone in my thinking.

--Gregfadein 01:33, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * As per the introduction of Naked (disambiguation), "naked" has a primary meaning, and Naked should direct there, IMO. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The description above already provides an answer to this: English users will look up "Nudity" by "Nudity" or "Nakedness." People that explicitly type in "Naked" are looking for things like the Talking Heads album, or the David Sedaris book. If you have any evidence to the contrary, please present it here. The discussion you keep digging up is an arbitrary historical artifact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.44.178 (talk) 17:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Evidence to the contrary: Special:Whatlinkshere/Naked and the intro to Naked (disambiguation). Where's your evidence of this historical artifact? -- JHunterJ (talk) 18:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Where is "naked as a jaybird"?
Or is it anywhere on Wikipedia? Someone wants to write about their probably non-notable organization.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:02, 10 October 2012 (UTC)