Talk:Nation19

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --68.99.217.96 (talk) 13:50, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Major updates have been made to this article and I included better references such as Nation19's work on Univision Television, a article that mentioned the owners in ebony magazine online, and Virtue magazine (the printed magazine featured an article on pages 19-12 Spring 2014 issue (UPC code 725274249848). I also noticed that a photo of Erica Badu is used as a reference on her wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erykah_Badu#mediaviewer/File:Erykah_Badu_in_Nation19_Magazine.jpg Muhammad Ali, Queen. "Erykah Badu Talks to Nation19.com about going BLIND and more, APDTA". Nation19.com / 19magazine. Retrieved November 30, 2011, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_(Pharrell-Williams-Lied) also had reference to a Nation19 article

For these reasons I believe this is a worthy entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.217.96 (talk • contribs)


 * I'm afraid that I don't see much added notability and if the speedu deletion is declined, that will just result in another AfD and wasted time for the community that could have been used better. --Randykitty (talk) 15:15, 11 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Agreed with the above, notability is still very dubious. Related: Hakeem khaaliq. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 19:59, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

What is this??
Could somebody who knows about this subject please clean up the article. It is not even clear what this article is about. Is it about a "project"? If so, what kind of project? Or is it about a magazine? But it contains all kind of info on individuals, so is this a confused biography? Is this, whatever it is, notable? One thing is quite clear: this is not an encyclopedic article. --Randykitty (talk) 01:54, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

nation19 is a magazine
Though I may not be a great writer Nation19 is a worthy encyclopedic article. The company (magazine) produces educational films and other notable exhibits and interviews. The Univision mini documentary produced, written and filmed by nation19 was an award wining photo exhibit first and a article in their magazine. This is what they do...and it's important because they are the only magazine that fuses anthropology and hip hop culture from a afrocentric or indigenous angle. This is a article I found in Indonesia about them that was not used in the article about how they produced a music video for Ramadan. Although Virtue magazine doesn't have a great web presence the mere fact that they put Nation19's Editor on the cover photo is significant. The Micheal Ruppert article was THE last interview conducted by the highly controversial whistle blower.

Notability is presumed for magazines that: have produced award winning work have served some sort of historic purpose or have a significant history are considered by reliable sources to be authoritative in their subject area are frequently cited by other reliable sources are significant publications in ethnic and other non-trivial niche markets Publications that primarily carry advertising, and only have trivial content, may have relevant details merged to an article on their publisher (if notable).

Here is a quote from an article written by Anders Ackfeldt entitled "“I Am Malcolm X” – Islamic Themes in Hip-hop Video Clips Online."

''My last example of a video response to the trailer "Innocence of Muslims" was actually not intended as a response when it first was posted on Youtube in August 2012. When it was first posted online, it had the title "APDTA by Masaniai Muhammad Ali feat Hassan Diop." However it was later re-released by fans under the title "Innocence of Muslims Movie: Hip Hop Response 'APDTA' by Muslim female producer." It was published on several video clips cites as well as on Youtube but at the time of writing the renamed clip has been removed from YouTube.

The song is produced by Masaniai Muhammad Ali, a California based producer, and features the rapper Hass (Hassan Diop). Masaniai Muhammad Ali is also co-owner of Nation19, a Muslim style street wear line and a magazine, along with her sister Queen Muhammad Ali. The video is professionally produced and edited. It features rapper Hass and Masaniai Muhammad Ali standing in the desert with a road sign stating "Crenshaw BLVD 4800 S." Crenshaw Boulevard and the Crenshaw district is frequently mentioned in American hip-hop lyrics by for example by hip-hip icons as Nas and Dr. Dre. The district is also well known within hip-hop lore for having accommodated many famous rappers over the years, for example Ice Cube, Skee-Lo and Ice-T. The video also features clips of whirling dervishes preforming dhikr, and pilgrims preforming tawaf in Mecca. The intention is clearly to visually connect Crenshaw to the larger Muslim world. Graphics in the video states, "We need Unity." The lyrics highlight the presence of Muslims in the so-called "west." The hook states:''

Look to the east bow my head to the Kaaba, I start it how we finish brutha bismillah. For those who are now home may Allah's peace be upon them, we pray their deeds were pleasing in the sight of Allah. Look to the west and see the ummah get larger, We start it how we finish in the name of Allah.

There are hundreds of significant references to Nation19 and its articles, films, and exhibits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.217.96 (talk) 17:10, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

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 * http://nation19.com/featured/nation19-magazine-apdta-3/

– Wbm1058 (talk) 01:50, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

"APDTA" meaning
APDTA is mentioned throughout the entry, but what does it mean? I just came across Wiktionary's very dubious triple entry ("all praises due to Allah", "all patriots don't trust America", "all people don't think alike") and am challenging it there. Equinox ◑ 19:18, 26 September 2018 (UTC)