Talk:National anthem of Mongolia

Name?
Why is this page called this? I am a Mongolian living in Mongolia, and have personally never heard the Mongolian national anthem called this. It is simply called "Монгол улсын төрийн дуулал", literally "The National Anthem of Mongolia". I rather think that "Bugd Nairamdakh Mongol" is an abbreviation of "Бүгд Найрамдах Монгол Ард Улсын Төрийн Дуулал", meaning "The National Anthem of the Mongolian People's Republic", the former name of the anthem. --ChinneebMy talk 14:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I've wondered about that name myself. It seems that the English WP tries to use the title of the song wherever possible. If I understand you correctly, then the Mongolian one doesn't really have a title, so we should probabÍóûâly use "National Anthem of Mongolia". --Latebird 20:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes --ChinneebMy talk 14:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * National Anthem of Mongolia already exists, so we need an admin to do the move. --Latebird 10:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Problems that need to be discussed
I think there are obvious problems that need discussion. First off, the irreverent Hangul and Devanagari transcriptions. There is really no need for these, as this is the English Wikipedia and many anglophones are monolingual and know only one alphabet. These were taken from the Korean and Hindi Wikipedias respectively and those transcriptions are only for the Korean and Hindi readers to represent the Mongolian pronunciation using their respective orthographic transcriptions. Second of all, the attempted IPA transcriptions and Romanizatioms are a mess. Mongolian phonology is way more complicated than people think and this also needs to meet WP:OR, which doesn’t. The Latin transliteration must follow an academic transliteration scheme similar to WP:RUS which is easier for English readers to read. I think this is clearly vandalism and whoever vandalized the page needs to be notified. Dia de los muertos (talk) 16:42, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, looks like it's been fixed. Dia de los muertos (talk) 13:20, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Removal of lyrics from the article
User:ScrapIronIV has relatively recently decided to remove the lyrics from this page, citing WP:LYRICS. I discussed the issue in detail on the user talk page (if the link expires). Based on the edit message provided ("Per WP:LYRICS - feel free to link to them on WP:COMMONS") and comments on the user page, I have understood that the idea is to transfer the lyrics out of Wikipedia onto another site of the Wikimedia project, such as Wikisource. However, User:ScrapIronIV has maintained that someone else must do the actual action of moving the content onto the other site and asks some other editor so in the edit message in question.

I am opening the discussion here to get opinions from a wider range of users about whether the lyrics should stay on the site or be moved elsewhere. I've attempted to suggest adding a template like Copy section to Wikisource under the Lyrics section, but even this has apparently not been enough for User:ScrapIronIV, instead preferring to plaster this notice onto the edit message, where people are unlikely to notice it. I personally believe that the lyrics are fine as is on the article itself, but have nothing against moving them to Wikisource and linking the Wikisource page into the article concerning the national anthem. For this, I believe the ideal solution is to add the template I mentioned earlier under the section rather than delete it outright.

What do other users think? Should the anthem lyrics be moved to Wikisource or not? S URJECTION ·talk·contr·log· 21:28, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Inclusion of lyrics?
National anthem of Mongolia

Removal of the Bogd Khanate anthem?
This has happened twice (sometime about a month back), someone keeps removing the anthem of the Bogd Khanate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ByelorussianSSR (talk • contribs) 12:49, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Don't remove the anthem of Bogd Khanate We moved to 8.12 (talk) 04:15, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, block him so that he can't remove the Bogd Khanate Anthem We moved to 8.12 (talk) 05:29, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Romanisation
What's up with the Hungarian-style romanisation? It doesn't match any romanisation I see at Mongolian Cyrillic alphabet or Mongolian Latin alphabet. Double sharp (talk) 14:45, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Fixed. See also SASM/GNC romanization. 91.189.187.211 (talk) 16:29, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

why is there not song?
this article should have a audio file attached and i know it has in the past but it just not here does anyone know why it was removed or bring it back? PharaohCrab (talk) 14:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC)