Talk:Neil Buchanan

Vandalism
Does anyone know why this article seems to get vandalised on a fairly regular basis? To me it seems a strange article to target. --Jameboy 22:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Because that joke is a classic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.70.236 (talk) 21:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

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Neil Buchanan is not dead
I know it's not the font of all knowledge but is there any way of verifying if the facebook group "R.I.P Neil" has ANY basis in fact?


 * It's proposterous to state that he is dead (particularly considering there isn't one Google result for his death, obituary, &c.) Until a source is available, this is going to be deleted --Luke w (talk) 22:57, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

isnt this guy dead now? shouldnt someone put THAT in? seems kinda important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.91.204.86 (talk) 23:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, he's not dead. Sally Anne (talk) 00:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

He isn't dead, just do a google search. I also searched on some newspapers websites and there is nothing. The man is still alive! AustralAlien (talk) 14:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC) He might not be dead, but Paul is. --99.246.165.47 (talk) 01:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Backing Vocalist
Apart from the lack of a source, does 'Desrae' actually mean 'Des'ree'?Lukeitfc (talk) 13:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Current Music Career
It should be mentioned that Neil Buchanans former rock band, Marseille, has reformed. The band, of which Buchanan is lead guitarist, have been gigging since early 2009, and are working on new release material. Yorkshiremackem (talk) 16:43, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

This page seems to have been gutted following the "Is Neil Dead?" storm... this article needs to be updated to mention that the band released Unfinished Business in 2010 (there is evidence on their official website, specifically there are a few press clippings at http://www.marseilleonline.co.uk/?page_id=163 ) and their official Facebook page is http://www.facebook.com/marseilleofficial — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomlostpilgrim (talk • contribs) 09:01, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Death Rumour
I think the sources used for dispelling the rumour aren't particularity trust worthy, the source is trusting someones forum post saying they received a reply back from ITV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.112.129 (talk) 01:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I've added a short bit on the whole death thing, just to clarify for people - as this rumour seems to have got out of hand. Hope everyone agrees :) Dvmedis (talk) 15:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

The Facebook group has now got more than 6500 members. Thought that detail was worth updating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.206.244 (talk) 22:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Forum posts are considered original research by wikipedia have added this information to section re: WP:SPS Matt Zero (talk) 16:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC) The matter of whether Neil is dead remains open, until more verifiable sources can be found disputing or confirming his death. The fact that facebook has reported his death is original research, as stated aboveWP:AVOID.

Heat magazine confirming death is a hoax

Furthermore, the inclusion of 'facebook' citations is against wiki guidelines as it is inaccessible to a large number of users. If even a million people are in such a group declaring Neil dead, this does not make the hoax anymore accessible to non-facebook users. External links; parts 2, 6, 10, 13 and 16. On top of this, the news article created by Heat was in response to a hoax. Neil is alive, editing wikipedia to verify this is counter productive as people are presumed alive until proven otherwise, the inclusion of the hoax information only highlights hoaxers ability to ridicule logical thought. Hoax section wiki guidelines Don't create hoaxes "Like everything else, hoaxes must be notable to be covered in Wikipedia – for example, a hoax may have received sustained media attention, been believed by thousands of people including academics, or been believed for many years. Wikipedia is not for things made up one day.""

Matt Zero (talk) 00:31, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

In response to that, I knew nothing about the Facebook group, I heard about his death when it was read out on the news on a reputable radio station, they said he had died of Colon Cancer. The hoax was obviously big enough for the Radio Station to believe and so I believed it and I'm guessing anyone else who heard the broadcast believed it too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.9.240 (talk) 06:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

NEIL IS ALIVE. I E Mailed ITV to ask about these rumours and I got this response.

Thank you for your e-mail.

There is no truth in the rumours. We are pleased to assure you that Neil is definitely not dead.

Yours sincerely

DUTY OFFICER - JT —Preceding unsigned comment added by chriskart (talk) 17:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure all these rumours started when the joke that he died of an 'art attack' got out of hand 87.112.55.1 (talk) 14:03, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Number of Children
The introduction says "He has two children, a daughter named Molly and a son named Freddie." However, the musical section ends with "He lives in Surrey with his wife and four children". According to the reference it's two, so i'll edit out the other one.


 * According to the aforementioned Heat article, Buchanan has three children. This is just as bizarre as his rumoured death. Jared Preston (talk) 11:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Removal of death rumuors
Although false, the rumours are themselves notable. Any chance of inserting them back into the article? Francium12 (talk) 23:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's notable enough to justify a whole section. Failing that, I don't see where it could go. 82.13.151.148 (talk) 00:39, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I can see only one article on the rumours from Google News, and that is a short article from a magazine. Its not enough to satisfy general notability guidelines, and forum postings are not largely acceptable for sources. If the BBC/ITN/Sky/major newspaper were to comment on the rumours, maybe then it could be worthy of inclusion. --tgheretford (talk) 10:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit request from Paulyay, 15 November 2010
Aintree isn't in Lancashire. See the following links for addresses of places in Aintree.

http://www.aintree.co.uk/forms/contact/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aintree http://www.aintreehospitals.nhs.uk/about_us/contact_us.asp

It should say Aintree, Liverpool or Aintree, Merseyside.

Paulyay (talk) 21:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Buchanan was born in 1961. At that time, Aintree was in the county of Lancashire. The county of Merseyside was not formed until brought into existence by the Local Government Act 1972; this happened on 1st January 1974. Therefore, Buchanan was born in Lancashire. Rodhull  andemu  21:39, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Is he Banksy?
It says at the Banksy article that Neil Buchanan is Banksy. Is this true? 74.215.131.114 (talk) 04:11, 26 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I think this rumour is now sufficiently well established to deserve a (qualified) mention on this page. It has been reported (as a rumour) in mainstream British publications (e.g. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/banksy-identity-neil-buchanan-art-attack-bristol-rumour-fake-b404800.html) Unfortunately, this may well attract vandalism. Perhaps the page needs locking? -- T d w r i g h T 10:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Edit request on 7 December 2011
We are currently working with Neil, and would like to add this information into a new section called Art, near the top.

Art After an internet rumour on Facebook pronounced the Art Attack star ‘dead’, Buchanan decided to return to his fine art studio in 2011 and began recording and painting his own childhood, growing up in the simpler times of 1960s Britain, before cyberspace and social networking sites resigned child’s play to indoors. Buchanan decided to paint “the story of childhood” when children were free to play in the great outdoor adventure playground and the result was his first ever published collection of limited edition fine art entitled Neil Buchanan’s HOPE STREET

Source (www.neilbuchanan.co.uk)

EffectiveMarketingCompany (talk) 10:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.--Hazel77 talk 18:50, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Is http://www.neilbuchanan.co.uk not a reliable enough source? I just checked and the site specifically mentions the above project - in fact, the "Hope Street" area describes it in quite a lot of detail, and includes photos and quotes of Neil Buchanan involved in the project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomlostpilgrim (talk • contribs) 09:19, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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How many times was he born?
This sentence from "Early Life" makes it sound like he was born thrice:

> Neil Buchanan was born in Aintree, then in Lancashire, now in Sefton, Merseyside

It should probably be something like "... was born in Aintree, but spent his childhood in Lancashire. He now resides in Sefton, Merseyside", however the article is locked (proof that he is Banksy imho)

Love from, Jeremy
 * Yes, confusing. But actually, what it’s trying to say is that in 1961 when Buchanan was born, Aintree was in Lancashire. It didn’t become part of Merseyside until a local government reorganisation in 1974. I’ve amended it a bit to try and make it clearer. As for the Banksy rumours, don’t make me laugh! --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:56, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Year of Birth
This is due to the fact that there is a recent edition conflict. According to the first quotation [1] in the article, Buchanan was born in 1956. Birmindarefd (talk) 06:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

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Collaboration with easyJet 'AirCraft'
Last October, Neil Buchanan joined up with EasyJet to launch 'AirCraft' which is in a similar vein to Art Attack. I'm not sure if this is notable enough or whether there are good enough sources beyond the easyJet YouTube page, so I'm not putting it in the article at this point, but here's the easyJet video in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir6VsHj3tKo and you'll also find other videos by Neil on their channel also.

In interviews about this, he has also stated a willingness to do an Art Attack 30th anniversary episode, but the only sources there are news websites, and in any case I feel that would probably be more appropriate for the Art Attack page itself. giftheck (talk) 17:08, 30 January 2023 (UTC)