Talk:Neil Heywood

Teetotaller or just not heavy drinker?
The article says friends described Heywood as a teetotaller. I think I remember reading a media report which just said that friends said he was not a heavy drinker. Perhaps someone could straighten out that discrepancy? Nandt1 (talk) 13:17, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Following up on this, I now see that the Telegraph story cited in the article says that his friends described him as "not a serious drinker". This does not equate to "a teetotaller" and I propose to amend the article.  Nandt1 (talk) 00:48, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

New article?
I'm wondering whether a new article is warranted along the lines of Neil Heywood Affair or Neil Heywood Incident (it can't be called "murder" as that is as yet unproven), the rationale being that there is a lot of background about Bo Xilai and Gu Kailai in Dalian tied in with Jiang Weiping's article in Xinwei Monthly that started the whole thing. Comments? ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 08:52, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don;t think we need a whole new article. We should rename this one, and focus on the incident itself, rather than the person.--vvarkey (talk) 10:14, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Two issues
First, on the above, I frankly don't see the need for a separate article on the scandal. Poor Mr. Heywood wouldn't warrant an article on Wikipedia at all if not for the scandal: it is, sadly, the only reason he is noteworthy. One article should be plenty.

Secondly, I am concerned that some of our contributors are picking up all sorts of questionable stories from the press and putting them straight into this article as if they were fact, without any effort to sort out the basis of the reports in question. As one example among several, the claim that Gu visited Heywood's widow with armed guards in tow to persuade her to agree to an immediate crematiion was reported here as fact, when if one digs into the Daily Mail story given as the source, it turns out to depend on "internet reports". Let's please try to remember our standards. Nandt1 (talk) 18:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Isn't the Daily Mail the one that has often proven to not be credible? When people work with organisations like MI6, even on a loose basis of fee/info, there is always blurriness because there are many who have an interest in smokescreens. I had two relatives whose deaths were not clarified and neither had anything to do with secret info. It's just a fact of life that some things can never be cleared up. 2001:8003:AD40:8400:E8FD:5393:696C:5D5E (talk) 06:12, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree on the source veracity, the Telegraph is sailing close to the wind too with their source "briefed by government sources." The whole story may be just a smokescreen to discredit Bo and Gu since the internet rumours surfacing on Chinese sites have not been squashed by the central authorities. Whether the real facts will ever be known is a tough one to call since any resulting trials will no doubt be held in camera for reasons of national security :) ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 19:41, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Age of Heywood
Was this guy really only 41 when he died. Or is the picture not right. He looks more like 60. Rlbarton (talk) 13:24, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

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