Talk:Never Call Retreat

I propose to merge the Battle of Frederick (fictional) article with this page
The Battle of Frederick (fictional) is only notable in the context of its appearance in the book which is subject of this pagespace. The battle article is an extended excerpt of the plot summary of this book, and has no notability outside of that context. No independent sources can be produced, since they don't exist, other than in the fiction of this one author. I intend to truncate the battle summary and merge it into this article. Comment? BusterD (talk) 22:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, that's an impressive effort by Emperor Jonah. I hadn't even noticed the link to it.
 * Actually, since the three novels' articles are such stubby things, I've considered merging them into one, as I did to the Pacific War series. Or, to give a much better example, as others did for Vatta's War.
 * —WWoods (talk) 02:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I have zero objection to such a merge process. My primary objection is that both battle pages badly mix real-world and in-universe humans, facts and sources. BusterD (talk) 10:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I suspect I'm in an extreme minority, but I'd lean toward leaving the article independent. I think it does have potential for further development which would be better served by not merging.  That said, it could use a major cleanup job. fourmajorman (talk) 23:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Article cleanup
This article is an impressive effort to be very detailed about the plot and the battle it centers around. However, having just finished re-reading the book (for about the 6th time), some major cleanup is needed. Many of the details of the plot are inaccurate, and in particular, many of the events of the "Battle of Frederick" are either jumbled or out of order. I'll see about doing some cleanup on this myself if I have time, but anyone who's read the book closely should be able to spot the issues. 76.167.159.210 (talk) 12:23, 14 October 2014 (UTC)