Talk:New Flemish Alliance/Archive 1

This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Archive 1

Hyphen

There has to be a hyphen between 'New' and 'Flemish'. On the English page of the official website the hyphen is present^[1]. Furthermore, it adds a specific nuance to the name, that is also present in Dutch. The party name doesn't simply mean the party is a new Flemish alliance, because if this was the case, there wouldn't be a hyphen in Dutch either. The name (also in Dutch) explicitly states it is a New-Flemish alliance. There is a different meaning to it, just like a 'neoliberal movement' means something more then a 'new liberal movement'. Tbacker (talk) 16:36, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

References

^ [1] English information page on the official website

Hi, Web - Admin der Web - Site. Is it relevant?

The number of party members. Ambiguous, incomprehensible figures. Increased or decreased? During the reign of minister John Jambon. How much ?

All foreign spies, after having learned a few sentences in Dutch. Adopted for permanent residence and / or citizenship of Belgium. What about the party? Increased?

(Jammer dat het onderwerp in het Nederlands is geblokkeerd.) Completefailure3 (talk) 12:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

European Free Alliance

N-VA is indeed a full member of the European Free Alliance^[1]. Tbacker (talk) 16:36, 30 December 2010 (UTC) Political party which sometimes, erroneously, as a separatist party was to be assessed. A major argument against solchere incorrect assessments is a state funding from royale checkout. In 2014, the amount of funding amount 12300 Euro. Donk, from this money the party could finance the advertising on the Internet, etc.Bon anne (talk) 16:46, 5 January 2015 (UTC) What a nonsense! NVA hold as its objective of a politically and economically did independent state Flandria.Bon anneZweite (talk) 17:36, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

References

^ [2]EFA member page

Article name

The article should be at New Flemish Alliance or N-VA per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (political parties). French Belgian media (for example La Libre, TV5MONDE, RTL) translate the name to French when using it in full, so it should be translated into English, as well. Since using just the acrynom seems to be quite common, internationally, I think that would be ok, too. Because this page has been moved quite often in the past (back, and forth, and back,...) it seemed a good idea to put it up on the talk-page before moving. --Completefailure (talk) 14:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I used to think that it should be at the current title, but I'm beginning to believe that listing (most) Belgian parties at their abbreviation would be best, as that is by far the most commonly used name (on ballots, in the media, and so on). So I would prefer this page to be moved to N-VA. Fram (talk) 06:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I am in favor of keeping the article at the English name, as it is commonly used in the English media and the party has an English page on their official site, where they translate the name themselves^[1]. Of course, when following this official translation, a hyphen has to be placed between 'New' and 'Flemish' in the article name as well. Tbacker (talk) 16:36, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

References

^ Cite error: The named reference english was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

Language policy source

Can anyone source the following sentence: "the party is also known for promoting laws that force new, non-Dutch speaking, residents of Flanders to use only Dutch, Flanders' sole official language, in dealings with government agencies,". As far as I understand, it's the other way around: government agencies have to use Dutch when communicating to citizens. This is however different from forcing citizens to use Dutch in their communications with th government. I have seen multiple instances where immigrants talk French or English in the city hall/community hall - they just get a response from the civil servant in (only) Dutch. The same for letters and e-mails. Morgengave (talk) 11:04, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Either a mistake on this article, or at the 'Seperatism' article

"Seperatism" is listed among their ideology on the article, yet when you checkout the article about Seperatism it's first line says: "Separatism is the advocacy of a state of cultural, ethnic, tribal, religious, racial, governmental or gender separation from the larger group". Today Flemings are the largest group living in Belgium... So which article should be edited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SystemBit (talk • contribs) 17:04, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

This response comes a bit late I suppose, but the 'larger group' would in this case refer to Belgium. The Flemings are counted among the group they wish to separate from - it'd still be separatism if the population of Wallonia was 1. I think the use of 'separatism' here is mostly consistent, even if the phrasing is awkward. Maswimelleu (talk) 18:44, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Pro-Europeanism

The past few years the New-Flemish Alliance seems to become more a Eurosceptic party than a pro-European party. In media they seem to criticize the European Union more than promoting it nowadays, and have joined the Eurosceptic group in the EU parliament. They seem to call themselves 'Eurorealistic'. The reference itself points to a list with Belgian political parties and their views on the European Union, dating from 2007. I suggest to remove pro-Europeanism from their ideologies, for now. SystemBit (talk) 13:30, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

That's fair enough, as the quoted source in question does not even use the term "Pro-European" or "Pro-Europeanism".--Autospark (talk) 14:05, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

External links modified (February 2018)

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on New Flemish Alliance. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 00:44, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

[english-1] [1] English information page on the official website

[efa-2] [2]EFA member page

[english-3] Cite error: The named reference english was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[1]

[1]

[1]