Talk:New Kowloon

Comments
No one would naturally think of the situation that a perpetually ceded territory and a leased territory (with an expire date) would be handovered at the same time. -- 19:47, December 7, 2004 (UTC)


 * No strong view for that but the history seems not particularly relevant to the geographical article of New Kowloon. -Hlaw 04:21, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The name of New Kowloon comes from Kowloon, and it was created for Kowloon. What's wrong for defining in this way? Would defining New York City as part of New York State be anything wrong? -- 19:49, December 7, 2004 (UTC)


 * I refered to the problem in the original article that New Kowloon is defined based on Kowloon, which is in turn defined based on New Kowloon, etc. Readers not familiar with the subject already would get confused. So more description was added. -Hlaw 04:21, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Map
We need a map. 218.250.158.14 (talk) 10:05, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

(7 years later) This article needs a map. Not to include one is ridiculous and unencylopedic. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 07:51, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Actually New Kowloon is a "vague" concept. Kowloon peninsula is defined by the area south of the ridge line (but who defined the watershed ? It may also change from time to time). However, in the treaty of Beijing Kowloon was defined as south of Boundary Street. Thus, Kowloon, was once divided into Kowloon (China territory ) and Kowloon (UK territory ). And then Convention for the Extension of Hong Kong Territory, area south of Shenzhen River and north of Boundary Street are defined as the New Territories. But it is odd that New Territories are divided by watershed so the term New Kowloon is created, which now only appears in land lease contract (all HK land are crown land). Further to the problem, modern district council boundaries are draw not by ridge line, so it came with this odd map File:New Kowloon Map.png. Matthew hk (talk) 09:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Even worse is, in Sino-British Joint Declaration, PRC called whole New Territories, New Kowloon and Kowloon (south of Boundary Street) as just "Kowloon". Matthew hk (talk) 10:29, 3 December 2020 (UTC)