Talk:Newark Light Rail

PATH
I added the words "Hudson & Manhattan line" to the data for June 20, 1937 plus I added "now" and put the PATH link in parenthesis.

In reading the article I felt it would be a bit misleading to just show the present name of the service "PATH" and not mention the name of the original service (H & M) –Allan 17:11, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Cedar Street Subway
Does anyone know if NJ Transit still owns the Cedar Street Subway tunnel:

"NJ Transit gave the press a tour of the tunnel on 17 October 2000, to raise interest in light rail transit in Newark, although they admitted no use of the Cedar St tunnel was foreseen. Mayor Sharpe James, along for the tour, proposed opening it as a shopping mall "just like Underground Atlanta", but mentioned that the city and NJ Transit has not settled "a question of ownership"." from http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/cedarst.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.1.169.102 (talk • contribs) 03:17, March 22, 2006 (UTC).

Stations
I saw someone fixed the Atlantic street stop. I also changed the others: Bears and Eagles Riverfront Stadium and NJPAC/Center St from Riverfront Stadium and NJPAC because those are the official names as posted on njtransit and that's the way they'll put them on the station signs. Also its not really important, but on the sign at Washington Park it says Washington Park Station. You can change it to that or leave it cause that's a really minor thing, but I think I put station on the NERL page, so one should probably be changed eventually. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.0.229.248 (talk • contribs) 01:43, May 6, 2006 (UTC).

Newark Light Rail
I put this in paranthesis for Broad Street Line, but perhaps it should just be under a section as Newark Light Rail. I wasn't sure because I hadn't heard to it referred that way until recently although it seems to be the official name. It is called the Newark Light Rail by NJTransit and informally still the Broad Street extension line, so both should def be mentioned but this should be clarified to people in the section perhaps and it seems like it should be organized a little better. Maybe if we just had it so it was just divided by the Main Line and the Light Rail and then history was put underneath the main line. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.41.247.251 (talk • contribs) 22:26, July 19, 2006 (UTC).
 * I moved the article and changed heading levels as well as the wording to reflect the change to NLR. lensovet 00:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Train pics
At the moment, the uppermost picture is of one of the PCC cars that haven't run on this line in over five years. Would anyone object to moving the picture of the modern train up to this spot, and sending the PCC pic down to the history section? --Jfruh (talk) 21:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Broad Street Subway & Light-Rail Stations
I just found this quote in the Newark City Subway section;

"'The line opened in 1935 along the old Morris Canal right-of-way, from Broad Street, at the old Newark Public Service Terminal, north to Heller Parkway.'"

Is Broad Street (NCS station) the same place as Newark Broad Street (NJT station)? If so, I hope nobody minds if I merge the red link for "NCS" station. with the New Jersey Transit one. DanTD 01:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The Broad Street station mentioned in the above quote is NOT the same as the NJT station. The station referred to in the quote was renamed in 2005 to Military Park Station specifically to avoid confusion with the new Broad Street Station on the new line. Jimtrue (talk) 18:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I redirected it to Military Park (NCS station) instead. I wish I saw your message earlier. DanTD (talk) 18:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Line names
I can't find anything on NJ Transit's website that says "Broad Street Line" or "Newark City Subway". All the maps and schedules read "Grove Street – Newark Penn Station" and "Broad Street Station – Newark Penn Station". Even if the other names may be more common, they not on maps and schedules, and we need citations to show that they are still used and we can just base information here off original research. – Dream out loud (talk) 18:53, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, it says "Newark City Subway" directly on the cover of the schedule (which is in my hand as I type), and on the signs at the stations along the line (plus various signs along Raymond Blvd. at access points for electric and ventilation). The name is still current, though less used. It should stay. As for the Broad Street extension, that one is less fixed, but has been used. I don't think naming them by the endpoints is a good idea, as a)they're not really used; schedules just list "to" and "from" Penn or Broad Street, and b)the weekend service pattern doesn't consist of two separate services, in contrast to the phrasing of the system consisting of two services. It may be a New York City Subway distinction, but there's a difference between "service" and "line". The NLR system has two lines, which have proper names. We should cover that.oknazevad (talk) 01:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand there is a difference between "service" and "line" and I should have used the latter. But even though you say that Newark City Subway is used, you need to provide a citation.  You can't just say that you have a schedule that says that.  Nowhere on any of NJ Transit's maps or schedules online does it say Newark City Subway.  And I haven't found anything anywhere that says Broad Street Line without referring to the subway in Philadelphia.  So if you have references that state this, then just cite it!  Otherwise its nothing but original research. – Dream out loud  (talk) 14:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The current Newark Light Rail schedule] clearly says "Newark City Subway" right on the front cover. And this is from the NJTransit website (I also have a hard copy at home).oknazevad (talk) 18:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it says "Former Newark City Subway" service. – Dream out loud (talk) 23:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Who says the Newark light rail system is a "premetro" system?
I looked, and could find no references to substantiate the unreferenced claim that this system is a "premetro" system. So I removed this dubious claim. Geo Swan (talk) 07:23, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Individual Line Articles
Hello, people in the Wikipedia community. I was wondering if we should make articles for the different routes of this light rail line. MrTrains227 (talk) 22:22, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Not needed. There's only two lines, one of which is only about five blocks long (it's almost faster to walk), and they are through-run on the weekends, so it is treated as one Line during that time. Just not enough material to need separate articles. In fact, they'd probably be tagged for merging if they already existed, and I'd be hard pressed to not support such a merge. oknazevad (talk) 22:29, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

@oknazevad Well that pretty much kills that idea. oof. MrTrains227 (talk) 23:26, 7 November 2018 (UTC)