Talk:Nicole Scherzinger/Archive 1

Bias statement
is this really appropriate? It's so subjectively written. perhaps someone can edit the paragraph to take out the bias, "Scherzinger is what entertainment industry executives call “a triple threat.” This free-spirited artist is not just another pretty face; she can sing, act, and dance. In a business that has been criticized for placing more emphasis on “image” than “ability” she shatters stereotypes with her blend of exotic beauty, charisma, and undeniable talent." gold3nrul3 13:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I have reverted article to an earlier version without the POV para and have restored the removed wikilinks --Design 03:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I removed the POV para (again?) and added a line about her high school. --Jamiem 02:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Filipino
She's really filipino? damn! i thought she was half indian.. but whatver.. now i'm proud to be filipina! haha jk..seriously she's filipina? whoa!
 * Hard to believe that it's that shocking to anyone. pattersonc 21:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * yeah wow I was suprised too, she doesnt look filipina


 * A recent anon.edit changed her birth father's nationality/ethnicity from Filipina to Hawaiian. What's the truth? All other sources say she has Hawaiian/Russian/Filipino ancestry. 05:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Its simple! As said in the Richard & Judy interview, Nicole says her mother is hawaiian/russian and his dad is filipino.

Shes not Filipina, she is at most 1 third filipina meaning more than 1 half of her ethnic makeup is not filipino. Until a scource is presented proving that her father is Filipino and her mother is Hawaiian/Russian, the article will state and quote from the scources that have been currently provided. --Jandela 11:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

If her father is Filipino, then she is half Filipina! And a quarter Hawaiian, and a quarter Russian, if her mom is Hawaiian/Russian! It's that simple! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.58.89.155 (talk) 19:39, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed the statement at the first of the article unless a valid source can be provided. The link that was there was a dead link. I also removed the part close to the end of the article, because the staement made had absolutely nothing to do with the role she was playing.Aladdin Zane 19:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Miss Puerto Rico
Why does she play Miss Puerto Rico? When she`s not from Puerto Rico?
 * Because they were passing hot women who could pass as Puerto Rican. pattersonc 21:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Because it was a MOVIE, she was playing the part she was hired for.Aladdin Zane 19:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Why does Anthony Hopkins play a serial killer and Sean Connery a secret agent in movies? Because THEY ARE ACTING! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.105.163.162 (talk) 09:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Scherzinger - a German surname
"Scherzinger" is a typical southern German and Swiss-German surname. It is derived from the Swiss town "Scherzingen", which is located in the border region of Germany and Switzerland.

Scherzinger is her stepfather's name, and her mother is half Hawaiian.
 * I have re-inserted her stepfather's name (Gary Scherzinger), as I think it is elevant to her bio to know that she uses his name and not her biological father's surname. Someone keeps anonymously removing his surname, perhaps they think it is just a style issue? This might be solved if someone knows Nicole's biological father's name & adds it to the bio. Design 12:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

This article needs to be edited. Her biological father is Filipino and her mother is Hawiian and Russian. Her stepfather is of European decent however. http://www.nicole-scherzinger.net/bio/bio.html

Leaving PCDolls
Popdirt confirmed that the story that said Nicole was leaving the group was fake. http://popdirt.com/article47271.html She is planning on releasing a solo CD, however.man I heard she was from minnesota.

Whistle Register
She does not have enough range to have her even being thought of as a whistle register-cabable singer. Maybe Melody from PCD but I havent heard anything from her that would make me believe it. Myke 23:59, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Thats weird she never sings high at all but she does use whistle register. Myke 01:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

in the song 1000 words and the song let me know whats happen

Please cite a reputable media source stating that she has the ability to whistle-sing. Wikipedia does not encourage original research, which is what this claim currently is. I've removed it as an unverified fact. Cheers, --Marysunshine 03:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

There is still an "edit war" occurring, where anon. users replace "cat:whistle register singers" without a source. So far all we have is seemingly "original research" about Scherzinger's voice in the songs "1000 Words" and "Let Me Know What Happens". See comment above by Marysunshine. The cat. should be removed until verified. --Design 03:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Why do people continue to argue about these whistle register singers. Everybody just needs to go ahead and admit that the talent is not as rare as it supposely was. Most females have the talent now, so its shouldn't be a big deal.


 * Scherzinger may have this range, but no-one has provided a citation yet. WP:NOR. --Design 00:14, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

She sang a song with Yoshiki
Look at this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7F4FgwYkbM&search=Yoshiki%20i%27ll%20be%20your%20love

She sang with this artist. Can it be added in the career section somewhere??


 * Done --Design 01:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Dating Status
Who the heck keeps changing her dating stats to Talan and Avant. There's no proof. If either one was true at least wait until they come out with it.

Edit wars
This article is currently undergoing a edit war. Some anon. editors are de-linking most of the text, removing relevant biographical material (her studies), and also adding errors (she sang on the album Days of the New II, not their first album), and so on.

Also if you are posting comments on this talkpage please sign using four (4) tildes (~). --Design 14:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Change The Picture
Can somebody?!?! That picture of her is awful and she needs and new one. 69.47.130.72 01:55, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree unsigned


 * would it be possible to have a picture that idenifies her instead of a group picture unsigned


 * I changed the picture..Check it out...I'm certain that it wont be deleted as the source is pretty legitimate...unsigned


 * Think again...It's not a free image, so it's gonna get deleted. You can't use a non-free image (like a fairuse one) just to see what a person looks like. Ta-ni-ni 14:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * how is it a non-free image?

Removed pseudonym
The intro used to say that she was "often known as Nicki Zinger", yet this usage only has one Google hit. I've removed it: one cite does not seem enough to support an AKA claim. -- The Anome 06:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Why I can't put my website, but other people yes?
Well, I'm the webmaster of Nicolefan.com and everytime i add my web to the wikipedia's page somebody delete my message but the question is... why i can't put my website but sites like pcd spain or nicole-scherzinger.net yes? <<


 * There is a limit of one external fansite per bio article. Please see External Links DesertSky85451 00:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

F.O.B
Who is this F.O.B., Family of Barry, Barry Drake? Nicole sang two songs on his 2001 cd.--Design 13:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Birthname
This article needs reliable sources for her birth name. Was it Nicole Yao Prescovia, or something else? --Design 02:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

The infobox has "Scherzinger" as her birth name. Is this correct? If Gary Scherzinger is her stepfather, did she take his surname after her birth? Was her birth name "Valiente"?--Design 19:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

She was born Nicole Prescovia Elikolani Valiente. Valiente a surname of dad who filipino; Prescovia Russian name Nicole. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.180.19.16 (talk) 19:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

50 Cent
IT said a while ago she dated 50 Cent. That true? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elif4ziggan (talk • contribs) 14:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC).

Picture
Can we change this picture? You can barely see her face in it.

Discography
Can we have a vote on this please? The table of "Duets and guest appearances" is currently hidden from view. I think it should be tidied up and made visible. Is there a better discographical format for this info? A discography is certainly relevant. --Design 13:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * keep --Design 00:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete &mdash; it seems designed only to bulk out a thin discography. --Mel Etitis ( Talk ) 22:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Nicole Scherzinger discography now has it's own page.--Design (talk) 13:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Nicole Scherzinger discography needs some editing work. Could someone please tidy it up? It currently lists numerous unreleased tracks, is this appropriate? Also re SINGLES: "Lie About Us" and "Come to Me" were both charting singles feat. Nicole. "Rio" is now available for download (in US only?) from http://www.amplified.com --Design (talk) 14:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

External Link
I'd be truly grateful for posting link to http://nicole-scherzinger.us (unofficial source for nicole scherzinger) in external links box. xoxox Vitanella 08:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No, fan sites are inappropriate for external links sections. Metros 11:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed: any fansites are removed. Acalamari 02:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Another flop?
Has Baby Love flopped aswell? The chart positions seem very low. Shouldn't we also include her solo album venture being something of a failure? She's had three singles released, each tanking and her album hasn't even been released yet? CandiceWalsh 16:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Her Name?
Is that really her full name?

Baby16 00:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

will.i.am
Did she guest sing in any of will.i.am's songs? Or was that Fergie? Yellowstone County Girl 04:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

iTunes singles
There are some discrepencies here; If "Supervillian" and "Puakenikeni" were both released on iTunes then I think they should both be listed in the Pussycat Dolls article, the Nicole Scherzinger article, Nicole Scherzinger discography and the Template:Nicole Scherzinger. They are already mentioned in Her Name is Nicole. --Design (talk) 10:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I just checked the U.S iTunes and all four of her singles are still available, with artwork. --Design (talk) 10:07, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I have added the two download only singles and references for both. Please discuss here if you disagree.--Design (talk) 11:00, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Was "Rio" a free or a paid download from Amplified.com? I can't access the site at http://www.amplified.com/caress could someone else please clarify this?--Design (talk) 04:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Her Name Is Nicole Release Date
Hey, Just Looked under her Solo Album section and at the bottom it says she officially announced the release date. I can't find that announcement anywhere so if it is true we need a citation and if it isn't true, it should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.78.5.224 (talk) 02:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured Singles
Currently "Yes We Can" is listed here as a 'Featured Single', but I don't think it fits this category. "Yes We Can" has over 20 guest vocalists. I think it belongs on her discography page but not listed here as a 'Featured Single'. Any consensus on this?--Design (talk) 11:43, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, also it's not a released single, at present it's a music video.--Design (talk) 11:54, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Singer & Songwriter
I have changed wording in the article from "singer-songwriter" to "singer, songwriter" because she does not fit in the current wikipedia definition of a "singer-songwriter". This is not a criticism, I see it as a clarification.--Design (talk) 10:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.110.40.244 (talk) 20:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

New Photos for, pussycat dolls, nicole scherzinger,melody thornton,kimberly wyatt,jessica sutt,and ashley roberts.
I changed all the pictures on all the Pussycat doll pages to more recent current p —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Meloni (talk • contribs) 18:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The current images we have of all the Dolls are free images (meaning they have no copyright issues), and take priority over non-free images or how recent a picture is. The image for Melody Thornton, judging by the wording on the picture, looks like it came from a website, and therefore, the image is very much likely not-free: unfree images should not be used to depict living people. If we have an image that is out of date but free, then it takes place over an image that is recent but copyrighted. Finally, please don't undo people's edits without explanation: reversion in that way implies the edit you reverted was vandalism. Thanks. Acalamari 19:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I did some digging and 6 of the 8 images uploaded are confirmed copyvios as having originally come from Getty Images, and the Melody Thornton image that Acalamari mentioned is among the six. I fully expect the other two images are also copyvios as well. Tabercil (talk) 22:25, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Nicole the piano player
In "I hate this part", Nicole was seen playing the piano. Seeing that there is no instrument section on the infobox and I don't know why the update doesn't show up, can somebody please update accordingly?TimHowardII (talk) 08:06, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Personal
She is currently dating formula 1 world champion - Lewis Hamilton, was spotted at the final race in Brazil —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shn2008 (talk • contribs) 02:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

name pronounciation
How is her surname pronounced in the US? It's a German name and we pronounce it "shairtsinga". Would be worth adding an IPA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.176.76.218 (talk) 02:03, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * schörsinga78.42.252.102 (talk) 11:37, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Guest Appearances: delete here?
An anonymous editor keeps adding a partially complete section called "Guest appearances" to the short discography in this article. I think this section should be deleted as it exists in more complete form at Nicole Scherzinger discography. I regard it as uneccessary duplication. The fact that Nicole has made many guest appearances on other artists' releases is mentioned in the body of the article. Can we vote on this? --Design (talk) 20:53, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No votes? I'll go ahead and delete it.--Design (talk) 10:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It's been reverted with no coment here. I will delete again.--Design (talk) 11:51, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I hadn't noticed this until now, but yes, I agree with your removal of the section on the basis of it being incomplete and redundant to her discography page. Acalamari 17:54, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have deleted again twice in the last 3 days.--Design (talk) 09:42, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed it a few minutes ago, only to have it re-added. Acalamari 16:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I have deleted again!--Design (talk) 11:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've reverted again. What's the policy on this edit-war?--Design (talk) 11:46, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have tagged this edit war for informal mediation.--Design (talk) 11:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably a good idea: I've left another note on the IP's talk page, however. Acalamari 15:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * A new variation is the addition of an unsourced section to this page's discography section titled "Other". I will delete this now and refer to this talk page.--Design (talk) 09:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Informal Mediation
Hi there, I hope I can be of some help. It seems that this dispute involves one registered editor and one anonymous IP editor. Design would you please confirm that this is the case. There is talk about leaving a message for the anonymous IP editor on their talk page, but I am unsure how this would work as they are unregistered and would not check it. I am not sure that they would even have a talk page. Can someone provide me a link? It is hard to mediate between a registered user and anonymous editor. If the anonymous editor comes to the discussion page I am happy to mediate. Until then, I am happy to work with you Design to find a solutioin. With that in mind I have a few questions to help me understand what is going on.

1. Has the IP editor been repeatedly reverting the same exact edits or are there multiple things they are changing?

2. What is the timeline on the edit reverts? Has the page been reverted by the anonymous user since you requested mediation?

3. Is there a difference of opinion over the substance of the article or in your opinion is the anonymous IP editor simply vandalizing the page?

Hopefully the anonymous editor will come to the table and discusses the edits. If they do not and this pattern continues we can discuss other solutions such as page protection. Wikipediatoperfection (talk) 20:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC) 1. 58.137.129.220 has been adding sections titled "Guest Appearances" and "Other" with slight variations from 22 January 2009-19 March 2009. Acalamari has also deleted the anon. additions, at least once.
 * Hi there. To answer your questions:

2. 58.137.129.220 has not reverted since I requested mediation.

3. I don't think it is vandalization. But it is incomplete, unsourced, and unnecessary in this article because more accurate and sourced data is already at Nicole Scherzinger discography.--Design (talk) 11:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Well, until the Anonymous IP comes to the talk page there is not a whole lot I can mediate. Hopefully they come to the talk page or stop changing the article. If they revert the page again you can, of course, request temporary page protection. I hope this helps. Wikipediatoperfection (talk) 19:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks--Design (talk) 03:06, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Age
Is her date of birth given anywhere in a reputable, checkable source? She looks much older than 30. 86.155.202.152 (talk) 16:01, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * While I agree that a better source should be found for Nicole Scherzinger's age, an opinion how old someone thinks she is is original research and goes against our policy on living persons. Acalamari 18:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Intellius shows her as 31. She graduated high school in 1996, so that number seems pretty accurate.  As far as looking older, she does seem to have spent a lot of time in the sun during her youth, so it could just be sun damage which can accelerate skin aging.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.72.144 (talk) 18:38, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Hexum duet
There's a recorded duet of George Gershwin's "Summertime" by Nick Hexum & Nicole. Does anyone have any info on this?--Design (talk) 17:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Personal life
Can people please stop revert-warring over this section? The other day, the "Personal life" section stated that Nicole Scherzinger was dating Lewis Hamilton, and the information was sourced. Then, it was changed to say that he broke up with her, and that was sourced too. Now people have been revert-warring to each version, and now neither source is there. Are they still dating, and can everyone please stop the revert-war? Thanks. Acalamari 22:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello, i've adressed this issue, by sourcing the fact that the couple are still together with 2 credible sources. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 02:41, 15 September 2009 (UTC))
 * Thanks for doing that, Lil-unique1. Acalamari 16:16, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

There's no need at all to comment on the fact that they broke up briefly. That's just tabloid gossip and not encyclopedic by any standard. 65.219.168.131 (talk) 00:57, 10 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Since when has media reports been tabloid gossip. Scherzinger even told Contact Music and EW that she had broken up with Hamilton (at the time) and Ne-Yo commented that it had inspired her during their studio sessions. Lil-unique1 (talk) 01:13, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just becuase something appears in a reliable source doesnt mean that it belongs in an encyclopedia article. WP:NOTNEWS / WP:UNDUE. Active Banana (talk) 01:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I dont think the question here is reliability. It is notable because it was reported to have influenced her music i.e. a future event which is being documented in the article under her album section and therefore in my opinion it should be included. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 01:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of other celebrity couples that have broken up and gotten back together. Documenting these trivial details is not consistent with wikipedia's mission. 65.219.168.131 (talk) 03:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If the encyclopedic reason for including reference to the breakup is that it influenced her songwriting, why is it that the non-encyclopedic portion is being added to the article and the encyclopedic portion isnt? Active Banana (talk) 04:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Religion
in the article she is said to have

A. Been raise as a "conservative Catholic" and B. Left Catholicism

I looked at the source and all it said was "I come from a very religious, strict upbringing in Hawaii.

"My grandfather is a preacher.


 * This has been addressed... (Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC))
 * The box at the bottom of the article still gives a denomination. No proof is given. She went to a non-denominational state school.
 * Her father is said to have left when she was a baby. Her mother's behaviour does not confirm anything.
 * Meyzeek Middle School seems to be non-denominational.
 * It is not clear which grandfather was a "preacher". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 13:03, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The duPont school seems to be non-denominational. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 13:13, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Wright State University seems to be so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 13:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Valiente left when Nicole was a baby. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.120.119.12 (talk) 11:16, 2 July 2011 (UTC)


 * sources have been added confirming she is Catholic. Her grandfather is a priest (he most likely is widowed and then became a priest). Another article said he would come in his clerical collar to see nicole in concert. And just because she goes to public school doesn't mean she isnt religious. Many Catholics go to public or nonCatholic schools, just as many nonCatholics go to Catholic School. --152.40.12.75 (talk) 19:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ukrainian Catholic priests are probably the only catholic priests who can marry ( and usually do) as long as they marry prior to being ordained. The don’t have to be widowed.Mykyta (talk) 00:47, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Removal of extraneous material
I removed the paragraph in the intro regarding the individual projects of other Dolls and the "hiatus" status of the band. Each of the bandmates and the band itself has their own page, and relevant content from the removed paragraph as it relates to Scherzinger is already included in this article elsewhere. Ibinthinkin (talk) 17:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Working with Luciana!
Nicole is working with Luciana on her debut album: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=114127871939565&id=123750291372 Can someone please add this to Her Name is Nicole section?

PLEASE be respectful of TIME ZONES LATER THAN YOURS!!!
I just removed the references to Nicole winning Dancing With the Stars. Thanks so much for ruining it for me. I'm on the West Coast, happily watching the show, which still had more than a half hour to go, and we were discussing what nationality Nicole might be, so I look her up, and WHAM!! SOMEBODY WAS SO RUDE THAT THEY POSTED THE OUTCOME OF THE SHOW WHEN MILLIONS OF AMERICANS HAVE NOT SEEN THE ENDING YET!! Please, people, can you just wait until the next morning to post the outcome of popular TV shows?? Besides the West Coast, there's Hawaii, which is several hours behind the millions of us on the West Coast. You just completely spoiled my evening and who knows how many other people on the West coast, Hawaii, and Alaska who saw this spoiler prematurely. It's really inconsiderate. To say that I am angry about this rudeness on Wikipedia is an understatement. What's the hurry????????????????????????????????????????????????? Watermelon Candy (talk) 05:38, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * We are an encyclopedia and a world wide 24 hour wiki- we cover encyclpedic content when and where we have reliable sources. If you do not want up to the moment coverage, it is probably best to look for information in places are not able to provide speedy updates of information. See also WP:SPOILER Active Banana (talk) 15:13, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Singles and i-tunes as a source
As a commercial site, i am not convinced that i-tunes as a reliable Source. Can we get a consensus here or should we bring in outside experts? Active Banana (talk) 15:08, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * As with a lot of things, it depends. iTunes is certainly considered a reliable source for when and if something was released on iTunes. Its chart positions are unacceptable per WP:BADCHARTS.&mdash;Kww(talk) 16:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Aside from iTunes there are numerous websites including the sources i've provide which state that both "Supervillain" and "Puakenikini" were released. At the time (i remember it vividly) that "Puakenikini" was chosen by a poll on Scherzinger's website as the third single and one month after release due to it not charting (which was reported at the time but its difficult to source as the Associated Press source is now dead link) "Supervillain" was lined up as a fourth single. The iTunes sources provide the source of proof that the song's were released (and provides the release date). There are other sources provided which also speak of the releases. I don't see the issue here... Its exactly the same as the Sugababes who said on video that they were signed to Roc Nation but when their album Sweet 7 failed the official press release said the girls had never been signed to RN, RN had only produced the album. Initially i did remove the singles long ago but now i've thought about its more factual for us to report what actually happened. Although scherzinger said that 2 singles were released (surprise-surprise she only recognises her charting singles) in reality 4 singles were released though i accept "Supervillain" and "Puakenikini" did not recieve full releases (only to iTuneS) (only digital) Lil-unique1 (talk) 16:28, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above arguments seem sufficient that I do not oppose the current use. Does anyone else have have any objections? Active Banana (talk) 16:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Just to confirm "Puakenikini" and "Supervillain" are both available at amazon and 7 digital for anyone who is still in doubt of their release. regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

This article and Nicole Scherzinger discography article have some errors (possible POV); some that have recurred for several years. Some time ago I tried to rectify these errors but was reverted, so I'd like to discuss here: --Design (talk) 03:09, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * currently the opening para of this article says her solo career commenced in 2010. She released 4 singles in 2007, however only 1 charted.
 * currently the discography lists the 3 non-charting singles from 2007 as "Promotional singles". This incorrect; they were released for sale to the public (online with artwork, i'm not sure about physical CD release). Naming them as "promotional" after they failed to chart is a form of POV "spin".
 * there was at least one genuine "promotional single" released, which was "Rio" a cover of the Duran Duran Song, released online for free.
 * 2 songs are currently listed in teh discography as "Other charted songs". One ("Killer Love") should be listed under Singles; the other ("Numba 1") should be listed under "As featured artist"

Improving this article
How we can improve this article?? Suggestions --MazurJacek (talk) 14:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

The Discography article should be put back up
Even thought she hasn't released a album, yet, she still has enough content for a new article under the Discography section of this one. Zacharee (talk) 23:51, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Birthname: A simple question
As it stands, the infobox at the beginning of this article once again has her birthname listed as including the last name "Scherzinger." I just have one question: How could Nicole's birth surname have possibly been Scherzinger, when, according to the introductory paragraph in this very article, her mother was still with her (Nicole's) biological father, Alfonso VALIENTE at the time?? Scherzinger is the surname of Nicole's STEPFATHER, to whom I am assuming Nicole's mother was not yet married at the time. In this way, I have tried several times to edit the birth surname in the infobox accordingly (without the "Scherzinger"), citing what I felt to be a reasonably reliable source, yet the edit always gets reverted or changed back eventually.

YES, I know the AllMusic Guide states that she was "born Nicole Elikolani Prescovia Scherzinger," but while the AllMusic Guide is generally an extremely reliable source for music-related information and I am not intending to overcriticize what is a fantastic music database, they have nonetheless actually been incorrect on several occasions about the release dates for various albums, as well as biographical info for certain artists. Thus, it is not unfathomable that perhaps one such inaccuracy is reflected in the information presented on Nicole. I would think there are more "direct" sources out there that would present more authentic biographical information about her.

Just thought I'd throw that out there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.233.36.113 (talk) 19:03, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I totally agree with everything you said. It's logical. And on the source listed on the page it says full name, not birth name. Would you mind showing one of the sources saying her birth name is otherwise than stated here? ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT   (Talk)  02:12, 14 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, that's the problem; I can't seem to find any source that ACTUALLY list what her real birthname is.  However, there is this article (which I believe is actually cited in the Wiki page) saying that she "adopted the name Scherzinger..." (http://www.divaasia.com/article/3944), which I think is quite telling.  Also, this page (http://tagaloglang.com/Filipino-Americans/Hollywood-Celebrities/nicole-scherzinger-pussycat-doll.html; look under the "Biography" section) seems to indicate that her birthname was Valiente, but it doesn't explicitly say it.  I feel like there has to be something out there stating what her actual birthname would be!...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.233.36.113 (talk) 00:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


 * So once again, I find that somebody has reverted the birth name in the infobox back to "Nicole...Scherzinger," in spite of the argument I presented earlier here (under another IP address). Do people just not want to get it??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.233.38.213 (talk) 20:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I saw the discrepancy between infobox and article body, made the change (including a comment explaining that "Scherzinger" came from her stepfather and can't be part of her birth name) and then came over here to drop a note about it. Is there something about celebrity articles that attracts more casual editing? 70.240.148.111 (talk) 12:38, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Charts
SLO is for Slovenia, not Slovakia. SVK is for Slovakia. --Greeneyed soul (talk) 01:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Departure from Pussycat Dolls?
Has anyone found some reliable source that clearly states that she has left this group?Blueknightex (talk) 08:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Her Name Is Nicole
Recreation of the album's article. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelB722 (talk • contribs) 20:57, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Someone should fix this mess: Her Name is Nicole. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 19:03, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, not a mess, just seems like it was purposefully hidden there, also it's completely uncategorized. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 19:05, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Television Table
There is something wrong with the format of the Table under Television. I tried fixing it, but I can't figure it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.181.106.245 (talk) 04:28, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Appearance at Royal Variety Performance mentioned in Filmography?
Should her appearance in this show that is aired annually on TV in the UK be mentioned in this article?

Big star/TBA
Before we get into an edit war over this, I'll explain my reasons for removing "Scherzinger is recognized as one of the biggest pop stars in the world." and "TBA". The former is a POV statement, and the source is dubious: the video merely shows somebody saying that she is one of the biggest pop stars in the world, but one person stating this doesn't make it so (and so far I have not found any other sources to support this claim). As for "TBA", that is not going to be the title of her next album, and instances of "TBA" in the place of an untitled next album are removed. Acalamari 18:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I tried explaining such to that editor. They responded by laughing in my face and re-adding it. I reported them to the 3RR. It's clearly a "stan" making such disruptive edits. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:47, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Image
The image re-added in this edit violates WP:NONFREE, as that image is non-free and that type of image should not be used to portray a person still living, and especially not when we already have plenty of free images available. I restored the free image, and I did the same thing here. Acalamari 22:05, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I didn't see why the main image was changed. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Just wanting to explain my recent actions here. :) Acalamari 22:10, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's good! Just beware of the user re-adding the image! Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:12, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, in was in case I was reverted again that I decided to post here (again); as you've most likely seen in the last five hours I've been reverted twice with the standard "undo" edit summary. :\ Acalamari 22:19, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have. Luckily that IP who did the "biggest star" was banned for 24 hours for breaking the three revert rule! And it looks like that user may be working their way towards that, too. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:29, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Due to a certain member or two continually uploading images that fail WP:NONFREE, we should discuss here before changing the image. If you change the image without discussing it, you will be reported for disruption of the article. It's been decided already to keep the image from The X Factor so do not change it. If you do, you'll be reported. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 03:58, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Genre
Since I'm being reverted with the undo feature yet again on this article, I'll explain my genre removals in more detail than in my edit summary. In this edit 69.210.243.98 states "Have you heard her sing "Black Dog?" or "Baby Can't Drive?" THOSE ARE ROCK SONGS." This is original research, not sourced facts, so I believe I was right to then remove rock (I also think "dance music" should be removed or replaced with something else, like dance-pop, since the Wikipedia article on "dance music" doesn't actually define it as a genre in itself); in addition, she is only featured in "Baby Can't Drive", it's not just her song...and I don't think Nicole Scherzinger being featured in one or two rock songs really makes her a "rock" artist. Acalamari 13:02, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Page
Someone rudely took my userspace of Nicole Scherzinger and put it on her page claiming it was their work, before it was completed. I was just wondering if action should be taken forward to this user? --ᶛᵃʳᵏ ˢͪᵃᵈᵒʷᵀᴬᴸᴷ 08:47, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You could revert the edits that include content from your userspace; then you can keep working on your page and re-add the content when you are ready. Acalamari 08:54, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm nearly complete now, but it was just really rude that I have worked hard on it and someone went and passed on that it was their hard work. A lot of this page was a mess with silly information, so I completely re-done it. :) --ᶛᵃʳᵏ ˢͪᵃᵈᵒʷᵀᴬᴸᴷ 09:13, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I know I'm late, but you could report said user(s) and they'd likely receive a block for WP:Sandbox thief. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:43, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Writing style
Has anyone noticed that there are a couple of strange sentences in here? For example: "She also asks boyfriend, Lewis Hamilton which songs he thinks are going to be hits, which he picked "Poison" to be the lead single from Killer Love." or "Scherzinger announced that her debut album would be entitled Her Name Is Nicole, which she recorded about 100 songs for the album, which was supposed to be released in 2007 before being..." Now that I look at it there is far too many "which" in here. Thoughts?--178.222.71.176 (talk) 01:00, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with you; I've made a couple of improvements. Acalamari 09:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protect
There is a lot of unwanted and nonsense being added to this artical, maybe protect it for awhile? --ᶛᵃʳᵏ ˢͪᵃᵈᵒʷᵀᴬᴸᴷ 12:10, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Personal life?
Is anyone willing to add to the "Personal life" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.210.250.177 (talk) 21:36, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Legacy section
Factually, there is no consensus that this woman has a legacy. The section is a clear violation of BLP. &mdash; Adabowth eSecond  22:39, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Too much detail? What should stay, what should be removed.
There is some obvious concern that this article may have too much detail. A discussion is needed to determine what needs to be including - and what does not. I have looked through very quickly. I can see that there is a legacy section that may not be needed. We need to decide if this performer warrants a legacy section. To do that we will need to determine if she has a legacy. There is a controversy section - for her time in PCD and her stints on US and UK versions of The X Factor. I think these have too much weight placed on them. Seeing as her stints on the reality show are already discussed elsewhere in her career section; they could be condensed and included in the relevant paragraphs in her career. A discussion is much better than just throwing information away though. Yes - there is way too much information and some of it should never have been included - I already spotted at least five points that belong in her single or albums articles as they are just minor. Rain  the 1  22:40, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I concur in all the ways possible. However, I have a passing interest in Scherzinger so I'm not spending my time on this article. &mdash; Adabowth eSecond  01:12, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I also agree. Till  05:36, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

I believe what I edited is worthy enough. Too much random information was placed were it did not belong. Her article needs to be condensed asap. --69.210.246.53 (talk) 23:48, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Solo releases and The Sing-Off

Dancing with the Stars, Killer Love and The X Factor

Public image

Legacy

^^ Those sections should be redone and condensed. --69.210.246.53 (talk) 23:53, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Profile Picture Change
I have been asked by Nicole's record label to swap out the current profile picture with this one -

However, when changing the picture it requests that I get consent on this talk page, so please get back me with the green light to make this change.

Thanks Crowdsurftn (talk) 19:31, 17 July 2013 (UTC)


 * No, is my answer. First of all, just because it is Nicole Scherzinger's wikipedia page, doesn't give her record label, agent, manager, lawyer, etc. any privilege of opinion when it doesn't coincide with consensus, MoS, guidelines and rules. Her infobox picture is CC-a-sa 3.0 licenesed picture, most recent, and in my opinion, better than the one you are trying to replace it with. Lady Lotus (talk) 18:46, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for getting back to me on this. Sorry about changing the picture over, after not hearing anything back I thought I might have been ok to go ahead and change. I understand your argument, but this request is actually coming from Nicole herself, the message was passed on to me from her label. Please let me know what I need to do to make this change happen if it's possible.

Appreciate the feedback, Crowdsurftn (talk) 18:56, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I understand that even if the request is from Nicole herself, wikipedia follows it's guidelines and doesn't take requests from the person the article is about, especially because it's a conflict of interest and don't want any advertising or promoting to be done. If the request follows within the guidelines and you have consensus, then a change can be made. But at this point in time, you don't either. Lady Lotus (talk) 20:07, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * As long as the image is freely licensed, it's simply a question of what people think is better for the article. Who is proposing the change shouldn't matter. If it isn't freely licensed, there is no question and it needs to be deleted. --Onorem (talk) 20:11, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The current image is freely licensed and I am more certain that it is correctly licensed. The new image is no better than the old one and tbh I am not 100% convinced it is properly licensed. That given I am inclined to say, leave the current image. See Taio Cruz for an example of where an artist had provided a free image. &mdash;  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  [talk]  21:39, 7 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes! change it..the current one is not very good! aish.ego (talk) 09:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Not semi protected article!!!!!!
She is an international singer, and while many national level people have semi protected pages, she still does not!! That's so unfair!! aish.ego (talk) 09:00, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfair? It's not perm semi-protected because it hasn't seen a level of vandalism that requires it. We want pages to be open for everyone when possible. Please explain why you think this page requires protection at this time. --Onorem (talk) 09:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The icon of "semi protection " says, " the article is semi protected to promote compilence with the policy of biography of living people", so isn't that criterion fitting here? aish.ego (talk) 05:21, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * How much IP or new account vandalism has there been here? Dougweller (talk) 08:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * If there is a clear laid down criterion for this, please send me the link, thanks. aish.ego (talk) 09:05, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The relevant page is Protection policy. There isn't a need to protect this article for the time being; as of this writing, 12 edits have been made to this page in the past two weeks and only one was vandalism from an IP (the other IP to edit in this timeframe made a constructive edit). Acalamari 09:18, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I got it, thank u aish.ego (talk) 09:22, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

"Princess"
Nicole has never been called the "Princess of Pop"...the link given refers to her as a "pop princess" - meaning she is of but ONE - not the princess of ALL. I changed the wording to indicate she has been called a "pop princess". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.215.187 (talk) 04:40, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Can she play piano?
She was sitting at this instrument in the video with The Pussycat Dolls. 46.215.107.40 (talk) 22:13, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Vocal Range
The article currently states that NS has a vocal range of over 4 octaves. While not impossible, it is unlikely in the extreme. At the very least, this statement needs a (very credible) citation. Unfortunately a singer's vocal range is frequently seen as some kind of p*ssing contest among fans and admirers, and a four octave range is the usual claim made in these cases, along with similar claims made by singers themselves. As a life-long professional musician, I have heard no end of singers claiming this for themselves. When put to the test, none have even come close.

This article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7708522.stm  is closer to the truth.

Even Freddie Mercury's claimed 4 octave range could not be substantiate acording to the study described in this article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3548327/The-secret-Freddie-Mercury-s-incredible-singing-voice-revealed-Scientists-say-exceptional-vocal-control-turned-Queen-frontman-force-nature.html

To quote from the article (if that's ok, I'm not familiar with Wikipedia's practices):

"There had been speculation that Mercury's range was over four octaves but this could not be substantiated by the study. The lead author on the study, Austrian voice scientist Christian Herbst, states that Mercury's voice range was 'normal for a healthy adult – not more, not less.' "

"Normal" voice range, even for trained classical singers, is about three octaves. if the difference between three octaves and four doesn't seem so great, remember that octaves are exponential. That is to say, going up one octave *doubles* the frequency, so three octaves to four is *much* more than the twenty-five percent increase you might assume if you were unaware of this. 82.26.78.212 (talk) 08:56, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Born and raised
Intro: "born in Honolulu, Hawaii and raised in Louisville, Kentucky"

Early life: "Scherzinger was born in Maui and raised in Honolulu"

We need to pick one and stick with it

Jozsefs (talk) 09:49, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It doesn't belong in the lead sentence unless its part of her notability. --Malerooster (talk) 13:50, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

unclear sentence
"The eating disorder lasted for eight years, remarking that it would have destroyed her life." Perhaps whoever put that in could rewrite it.--159.2.46.127 (talk) 23:23, 27 December 2019 (UTC)