Talk:Nigersaurus

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So is it a myth that it vacuumed up food? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.57.103 (talk) 15:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That's just a metaphore for the style it used to eat. The skull was down-turned and it would have used its neck to sweep large areas of the forest floor. It "vacuumed up" food the same way a cow does. That is, it ate very efficiently, it didn't actually use suction or anything... Dinoguy2 (talk) 23:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

image addition
I am not having images under those names on this article. I also highly doubt that the uploader actually has permission to upload them. J. Spencer (talk) 18:02, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * this pictures are from the Wiki commons. look at the Copyrights. look hier http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nigga.png and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nigga2.JPG or on the german article. --62.214.209.174 (talk) 18:08, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The images have no source URL. I doubt they are licensed correctly, and I am also unwilling to have images using those names. Firsfron of Ronchester  18:13, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * According to the PLos ONE guidelines, articles are under a Creative Commons Attribution license, however, the names of the images are in very poor taste and should be changed. We had to sit through several days of racist joke edits on the article, and I'm not going to have them hidden in the names of images. J. Spencer (talk) 18:42, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I have changed the image names, you can find them at Image:N. taqueti2.jpg, and Image:N. taqueti.png. I have asked the uploader to clarify the source/author information and licensing on commons, so there is no confusion. Info given by J. Spencer above, added to both images. Thanks J! Cheers,  Ariel  ♥  Gold  19:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the assist! J. Spencer (talk) 23:28, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I was under the impression images taken directly from journal articles are not usable here. Why are these an exception? Dinoguy2 (talk) 21:42, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Never mind, just noticed PLoS uses CC. Good deal! Dinoguy2 (talk) 21:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * On this note, what was wrong with the image on the right? Something with the whole "foot fall formula" issue? FunkMonk (talk) 18:51, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed the legs according to this, and corrected the skull shape. FunkMonk (talk) 22:24, 6 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Wow, I had never imagined there would be so many racist vandal edits for this TFA. I knew there was potential for it, but sheesh. FunkMonk (talk) 15:23, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Don’t underestimate ‘memers’ Sangsangaplaz (talk) 10:40, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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fenestra
LittleJerry, check, please: you wrote about 3 unique fenestra, but the source apparently says about 5: "Several cranial features of Nigersaurus have never been reported in any other sauropodomorph dinosaur including closure of the supratemporal opening, five additional fenestrae on the lateral aspect of the skull...". Sneeuwschaap (talk) 08:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Pronunciation?
Could we add the pronunciation of Nigersaurus? Unkownreader
 * Since it is a Latin name, it would be most correct to pronounce it approximately as it is written. Sneeuwschaap (talk) 23:05, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You can hear the main describer pronounce it here: FunkMonk (talk) 09:38, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * some people might mistake it for n word 80.194.237.230 (talk) 13:44, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Considering an entire country and nationality is tied to that name, that shouldn't be an issue for any thinking person. FunkMonk (talk) 13:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Which country is tied to the n word? Sangsangaplaz (talk) 10:37, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * He meant Niger. There's only one g in the name, not two. Prinsgezinde (talk) 13:30, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * plus, it's pronounced like a J and is only tied to the nword in popular culture Sangsangaplaz (talk) 07:17, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It’s something that cannot be changed by anyone so we have to deal with it. Sangsangaplaz (talk) 10:38, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * what if i dont knwo hwoto pronounce the dinosaur name 80.194.237.230 (talk) 10:07, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Then you can watch one of the videos linked at the end of the article where Paul Sereno mentions the name. FunkMonk (talk) 11:59, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I will try to find out how to pronounce it. Also it’s spelled “don’t”, “know”, and “how to” but i am guessing you already know. Sangsangaplaz (talk) 12:10, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Possible synonym of Nigersaurus has been found by me.
Someone please add Rebbachisaurus tamesnensis (Lapparent, 1960) as a possible synonym of Nigersaurus. 80.194.237.230 (talk) 13:44, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source for that? Several IP's and accounts (who I believe could be you) have repeatedly added it as a synonym of Jobaria and Nigersaurus over the years, but I can't find sources for that either. Do you know any papers, documents, or first hand observations of the recent or distant past to confirm what tamesnensis really is? 2001:4453:5F7:6400:4D25:697C:9C00:9DF5 (talk) 14:02, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Nigersaurus mass estimate
The size estimate seems to come from the 2007 study which proposes a length estimate at 9 m and a body mass estimate of Nigersaurus at ca. 4 tons (I'm not sure whether this means tons in terms of metric tons or short tons, yet this Wikipedia article writes it in metric tons; was there a confirmation from the authors?) Length estimate is fine, but other researchers have suggested significantly lower body mass estimates. Paul (2016) and Hallett & Wedel (2016) suggested 2 metric tons (the latter is written as 2 tons, but the book itself confirms that this means metric tons), and Campione & Evans (2020) suggested 1.9 metric tons. Would it better to include these estimates as well?

Paul (2016): The Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs 2nd Edition

Hallett & Wedel (2016): The Sauropod Dinosaurs: Life in the Age of Giants

Campione & Evans (2020): The accuracy and precision of body mass estimation in non-avian dinosaurs Junsik1223 (talk) 00:16, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * If we have a lower estimate, we don't even need to list the one in between the two extremes. Also since the lower estimate is from a more reliable source. As for weight, I believe metric units are the standard in science. FunkMonk (talk) 00:21, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have edited the article as suggested. Junsik1223 (talk) 00:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Seems fine. FunkMonk (talk) 00:58, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2023
I would like to correct grammatical errors. Jearbear911 (talk) 15:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  16:25, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The title says ‘Semi-protected edit request’ but your message is about correcting grammar mistakes so what are you trying to say (also you don’t need to add a talk topic for grammatical issues if you can fix them yourself.)? Sangsangaplaz (talk) 10:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Added (rough) pronounciation
I added a rough pronounciation of Nigersaurus. As i have limited knowledge about the IPA it is not the best transcription and has room for improvement. Even if it is very rough it would help readers pronounce it (and not confuse it with the n word). Feel free to improve on it. Sangsangaplaz (talk) 14:40, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

References are extensively missing
There are too many, too specific claims that are not backed by any reference. Such level of detail should be accompanied by a reputable reference. For instance, the introduction states:

"Small for a sauropod, Nigersaurus was about 9 m (30 ft) long, and had a short neck. It weighed around 1.9–4 t (2.1–4.4 short tons), comparable to a modern elephant. Its skull was very specialised for feeding, with large fenestrae and thin bones. It had a wide muzzle filled with more than 500 teeth, which were replaced at a rapid rate: around every 14 days. The jaws may have borne a keratinous sheath. Unlike other tetrapods, the tooth-bearing bones of its jaws were rotated transversely relative to the rest of the skull, so that all of its teeth were located far to the front. Its skeleton was highly pneumatised (filled with air spaces connected to air sacs), but the limbs were robustly built."

There's not a single reference. In particular, the statement that they could replace their teeth every 14 days seems extremely hard to support. Is there any high-quality scientific article that supports this claim? 69.143.146.97 (talk) 02:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Intros don't need references, as they're merely a summary of the article body, which is fully referenced, if you'd bother to look. See: WP:lead section. FunkMonk (talk) 13:10, 16 May 2024 (UTC)