Talk:Nomura's jellyfish

Copyvio potential
This page is *very* close to a Copyright Violation. See http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1910322,00.html

At best, this page is worded as a news article. Needs to be re-written. -Mr.Logic 15:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I tried cleaning up some parts, as well as adding some more balanced information to tone down the almost editorial claims that were present. Needs more work. Bobak 18:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

According to CNN, the jelly fish aren't toxic enough to be a serious threat to humans. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/01/19/japan.jellyfish.reut/index.html

Scientific information
This is a fun topic, virtually all of the information to be found on this Jellyfish originates with news articles referencing the current impact on Japan's fishing industry. So far none of these articles have bothered to list their sources for their information, which makes finding accurate scientific information on the Nomura like finding a needle in a haystack. I will keep adding information as I can find it. Coldbourne 20:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree; I had to do some very extensive searching to try and find the proper taxonomic family for this today, and found some indications that the genus had changed in 2004. (I still don't know what family it's in.) That's why I added this, based on, :


 * M. Omori and M. Kitamura (2004) Taxonomic review of three Japanese species of edible jellyfish (Scyphozoa: Rhizostomeae), Plankton Biol. Ecol. 51(1): 36-51.
 * Specimens of three edible jellyfish from Japan, i.e. "Bizen kurage", "Hizen kurage", and "Echizen kurage", are re-examined and re-described so that their nomenclature is stabilized. The "Bizen kurage" is Rhopilema esculentum Kishinouye 1891, and the "Hizen kurage" is Rhopilema hispidum (Vanhoffen 1888). The "Echizen kurage" is a distinct species of the genus Nemopilema. We propose to revive the original name Nemopilema nomurai Kishinouye 1922 from the more commonly used Stomolophus nomurai. The taxonomic position of N. nomurai within the Scapulatae is discussed.

Can you explain why you removed it? Thank you. &mdash; Catherine\talk 01:00, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

'''According to this article, they're more common in Chinese and Korean waters than Japan's.. I've yet to find a truly reliable information source, however.'''

Not much meaningful information in the entry at all. Just how much is known about this jellyfish? Calling all marine biologists? 216.98.102.186 (talk) 15:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Taxonomy
I have changed this article to correspond to the recent taxonomic review. I just did an assignment on it and all the recent articles seem to be using this name. It appears the new classification has been accepted. Thebike 08:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

stingers?
oooh-kay... aside from the endless nightmares, this thing has raised a few questions. the first one is: do these jellyfish have stingers? (Please respond on my talk page.) tinlv7 01:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Pics?
Hey, there are some great pics of Nomura's jellyfish in Discover magazine. Is there anyway someone could get their hands on them to add to the article? It would help a lot. There's also a pic of them getting caught in fishing nets. Those fuckers are HUGE!! ForestAngel 07:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Missing info?
What I came to the article to find: who's Nomura? Was he the first to describe them in the literature, or what? and when? —Quasirandom (talk) 21:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Nomura who?
The venomous giant jellyfish Nemopilema nomurai Kishinouye, 1922 (for some time in the genus Stomolophus) is a tribute to Mr. Kanichi (Kan-ichi) Nomura, 18??-19??, who was the Director General of the Fukui Prefectural Fisheries Experimental Station and sent in early December 1921 a specimen in a 72 l wooden tank to Kishinouye, who found that it was unknown and spent some time at the station during his winter vacation in order to study living specimens. Nomura later (mid 1930s) became known as an orgaizer of a Japanese fishery coordination committee. Some other zoologists sharing his family name were the malacologist Shichihei [Sitihei] Nomura, 1892-1945, who is honoured in the cardiid name Trifaricardium nomurai Kuroda & Habe, 1951 and the oligochaete worker Ekitaro Nomura, 1887?-19??, at Tohoku Imperial Univ. [Dr.s Toyokawa Masaya & Kensuke Yanagi kindly informed about Kanichi Nomura][http://www.tmbl.gu.se/libdb/taxon/personetymol/petymol.no.html Biographical Etymology of Marine Organism Names. N & O: Nomura] Pawyilee (talk) 10:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Shurely shome mishtake?
The article claims that these jellyfish grow up to two metres in diameter and weigh up to 200kg but that they were identified after one was sent to an expert in a 72-litre tank. Obviously, not all specimens are 2m/200kg but 72l of water fits in a tank of 30x40x60cm, which is tiny compared to that maximum size. Of course, the jellyfish can be folded up but, assuming it has approximately neutral buoyancy 72 litres of jellyfish won't weigh significantly more than 72kg — and that's with the tank completely full of jellyfish! If the tank was, say, half full of jellyfish and half water, we're talking about a specimen only about 20% the maximum size. So, either the first specimen was very much smaller than the largest since found or the tank was bigger than 72l. Dricherby (talk) 12:38, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Edible?
I have read the section in scientific information that mentions edible jellyfish, but I found it to be a bit...meh, I had the perfect word in my head a second ago and now I can't think of it; I guess I could use "confusing", but it's a mediocre substitute at best. Anyway, whether or not the Nomura's jellyfish is edible was not put in plain terms... so does anyone know for sure whether it is or not? I have been searching for jellyfish jelly, but have yet to find any and I have recently developed an interest in canning. I think it would be fun to make a jelly that is made from actual jellyfish. Coincidentally, my cousin raises spiny dogfish. He let me choose one as a pet to live in a small lagoon-type body of water he has on his property and I named it Peanut Butter. Lately I've been thinking that it would be a great deal of fun to give in to a moment of whimsy and turn Peanut Butter into a salted dogfish paste and label it "peanut butter", then can some jellyfish jelly. Afterwards, I plan to crisp up some bacon weaves and make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches - although I suppose I could substitute salmon cakes or crab cakes for the bacon weave to keep with the aquatic theme. I'm well aware that I could easily use any other edible jellyfish for this endeavor, but if I'm going to eat my pet to make this happen, I want this one. If, however, it's not possible to eat or procure this jellyfish, I will be turning my sights to the cannonball jellyfish, which is both delicious and adorable. Thank you to anyone that can help! Cite your sources!

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