Talk:Non-apology apology

Culture dependent; Western and particularly American/Anglo
The article is fine as documentation of a modern English expression, but makes debatable factual statements in Wikivoice about what does and does not constitute a proper apology. The idea that a true apology should be forthright, specific, personally address the victim, take responsibility, and other similar assumptions in the article are part of a Western, possibly Christian and particularly Anglo/American outlook. There are places and cultures where, for example, directness and specificity are not considered as necessary or preferable in order for an apology to perform its social function. Or where paying money is considered full and sufficient atonement (even for serious crimes). Sesquivalent (talk) 10:29, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Pope John Paul II's Letter of (non-)Apology for the Inquisition
It's a very controversial case, probably a somewhat sensible subject to some audience, but it's actually a pacified academic discussion. You can find the official letter on the Catholic Church website, she does not claim that it is an apology (don't forget that the Church is God's Will on Earth, it's impossible to be wrong). It's very clear in the Letter, it even claims that they saved more souls and provided more "fair" judgements than the bloody-thirsty Protestant Inquisition, basically saying they did more good than bad, a real non-apology example. I'm sure there's something in theology talking about it, but I can't remember any author. It's still not known why most people believes that the Church apologized for the Inquisition Big Butt Princess (talk) 08:17, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Another type of apology
What’s it called when someone at first appears to apologize sincerely but tacks on at the end that the wrongdoing was out of the speaker’s control. 107.127.42.129 (talk) 19:09, 19 September 2022 (UTC)