Talk:North Carolina Commissioner of Agriculture

Merge
This should be merged into North Carolina Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services. This is because the agency/ministry has the primary article, and the head/commissioner/minister position should only get an article if there is enough sourced info about the position separately from the agency/ministry. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:14, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Firmly Oppose: I actually don't want to combine the two, because the head of this agency/ministry is an elected official in North Carolina, and holds office under the State Constitution. Additionally, other offices in the state (elected and unelected) have similar arrangements (see: North Carolina Superintendent of Public Instruction and North Carolina Department of Public Instruction, as well as North Carolina Commissioner of Labor -- although the Department of Labor doesn't have its own page).  If this were an unelected office not mandated under NC Constitution Article III, section 7(a), I might agree.  For instance, the Secretary of Cultural Resources perhaps shouldn't be a separate article from the North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources.  I understand your concern about lack of sourced material, and I will try what I can to improve the article, but regardless of content I think combining the two would be unnecessary.   Cdtew  (talk) 21:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Cdtew. The agency has an elected top official, hence WP:NOTABILITY would indicate that both need their own articles.  I believe this pattern holds across most state articles, and if it doesn't, it should.   Montanabw (talk) 23:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose I agree with WhisperToMe that the department article is an ugly stub of an article. Would agree with Cdtew that they should be separate as, especially in NC since it is a statewide elected position, the office is of equal or even more import than the department as a whole. The department article just needs serious expansion work. -- JoannaSerah (talk) 20:58, 23 January 2013 (UTC)