Talk:Northern Michigan

Map needed
we need a map of Northern michigan with cities listed. I am lazy but will do it if nobody else wants to contribute to the legacy of wikipedia by drawing and posting one. MPS 20:41, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Four year colleges
Midland is in the county directly east of Isabella County (where Central Michigan University is located). Midland County is not considered part of northern Michigan, therefore neither is Northwood University. This means there are no four-year universities in northern Michigan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.132.45 (talk) 17:04, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Ferris State University in Big Rapids, Michigan (and also in Grand Rapids, Michigan) most definitely offers four year and post graduate degrees. So your statement that there are "no four-year universities in northern Michigan" would be unfounded.
 * FWIW, Northwest Michigan University and Alpena Community College offer four year degrees in partnership with other colleges.
 * However, I think the article gets this material right.
 * 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 19:58, 19 December 2007 (UTC)Stan
 * 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 01:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)STan

The AM radio listing is a complete mess
DONE It should be reordered by someone based on the numbers, and create a 'dial' like the FM listing. Right now its just random. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 01:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 03:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)Stan 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 18:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

Road work
Somebody needs to do a commentary on US-31, US-27 and US-131. I almost never drive those, and I'm bored with the size of putting this whole road thing together. There are probably fairly good descriptions of at least one of them in Traverse City, Michigan.

DONE. We should also add in M-115 and M-13 (needs commentary) (the latter runs north from Bay City to Standish and US-23, and is the hypotonous of a right triangle, where one might have considered using I-75 to get to US-23.

7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 19:29, 22 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

History
This article is completely lacking in a broader and better researched history section, which it really needs. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 16:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

Statistics on Michigan
There are relevant statistics on Michigan, which I believe are part of the larger picture. One of our editors removed this as 'irrelevant'. My request to him for more relevant data (presumably limited to Northern Michigan) has gone unanswered. Here is the data:

- 	The geographical theme of this region is shaped by the fact that it is part of greater Michigan, which has: - 	- 	- 	- 	-
 * 58110 sqmi of land.
 * 1305 sqmi of inland water.
 * 38575 sqmi of Great Lakes water area.
 * 3288 mi of Great Lakes shoreline.
 * 11,037 inland lakes.

7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 16:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)Stan


 * Those stats are in the Michigan article already. Why re-add them here? Comparative statistics (as in, "this region comprises 1/4 of the land area of the state" (I made that up)) are useful, but not stats about the state and not the region. I agree with Rmherman on this one. Also, I don't think that a complete listing of every detail is really useful -- such as every single AM radio station. It doesn't add to the encyclopedic quality of the article and just adds a lot of extra material to wade through. That may be more relevant on, say, WikiTravel. -- dcclark (talk) 05:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I reworked the statistics, so it is just a simple paragraph. I think it adds something to the article. I did put in an internal link to the Michigan article, which oddly may not have been in there at all. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 12:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

This link shows Michigan's coastline at 3224 miles. http://coastalmanagement.noaa.gov/mystate/mi.html Asher196 (talk) 03:55, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Here's antoher source that repeated the 3288 figure. http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usstates/mi.htm 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 12:41, 29 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

Lists of radio stations, etc.
As to the criticism on the radio stations, maybe it does belong somewhere else, and a simple link would solve the issue. However, I don't think that this information is anywhere else, and simply deleting it makes little sense, as it is potentially useful to users. On the other hand, it si at the end of this article, and doesn't really detract from the flow. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 12:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)Stan
 * List of radio stations. The Central Michigan University NPR station has a bunch of stations ( that service northern Michigan and the Upper Peninsula.  They probably should be included.  They are WCMU-FM 89.5 Mt. Pleasant; WUCX-FM 90.1 Bay City; WCML-FM 91.7 Alpena; WWCM-FM 96.9 Standish; WCMZ-FM 98.3 Sault Saint Marie; WCMB-FM 95.7 Oscoda; and WCMW-FM 103.9 Harbor Springs.  7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 13:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

Business section
Added it. This needs a list of prominent Northern Michigan businesses. Such a list exists in Western Michigan. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 16:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Stan

what isw the population of northern michigan?
i need to know the population of humans in this region. i dont feel like spending hours looking at every individual county just to find out. 99.51.212.6 (talk) 17:08, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Capitalization
Is "Northern Michigan" a proper noun? Id est, should "Northern" be capitalized?   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 19:05, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Northern Michigan
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Reference named "drury": From Ann Arbor Railroad (1895–1976):  From Pennsylvania Railroad:  

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This is not a sentence
Although, some residents of the Upper Peninsula often say that "Northern Michigan" is not in the Lower Peninsula It is a phrase without a noun or verb. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 20:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Residents - noun, say - verb Rmhermen (talk) 02:20, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

History
I just added a bunch of stuff to the history section in the last few days and it s getting rather long... do you think it would be ok to start a History of northern Michigan article? I have not even touched the 20th century and there is still some stuff from the Louisiana (New France) era that I think would be valuable. Peace MPS (talk) 22:51, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * MPS FWIW, I think a dedicated article would be a good addition. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 00:27, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Northern Michigan
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Reference named "state": From St. Ignace Mission: </li> <li>From Manitou Island Light Station: Manitou Island Light Station form the state of Michigan, retrieved 8/19/09</li> </ul>

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List of museums
Article needs additional information on this, I think. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:38, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Infobox map
While the infobox map serves its purpose, I'm not a big fan of it. Except the Upper Peninsula and Metro Detroit, no major regions in the state have any defined boundaries; the sub-articles themselves even admit that and don't provide any valuable references. While that can be a discussion for another day, my easiest concern can be why is Bois Blanc Island colored as if it is part of Northern Michigan, when it is part of the Upper Peninsula? I tried to upload a revised version of the map on Commons to change the island's color, but it said I don't have permission since it is not my original image. I don't want to upload an entirely new image if there is a way that the simple error can be fixed on the original image. —Notorious4life (talk) 00:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)