Talk:Northrop Grumman/Archive 2

Aerospace products
The F-14 was removed from the Aerospace products section. Isn't it still used by Iran? I looked through the links in the F-14 Tomcat article but the latest info I found at says Iran uses it was from like 2002. Thanks. -Fnlayson 01:04, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I didn't think that was supposed to be an exhaustive list, and Iran is only one nation. I have no problem if it goes back in, tho. - BillCJ 01:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that it should have been removed from the Aerospace products sections. Iran will not receive support from NG because there is an embargo on Iran from the United States.  NG being a US entity cannot provide "tech support" to Iran for any of the F-14's they currently maintain.  ViriiK 08:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I was mainly wondering if the F-14 was still in use by Iran. -Fnlayson 18:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * They are in their own ways but they're not supported by NG in any way whatsoever to maintain these planes. ViriiK 15:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I caught the support thing the first time.  -Fnlayson 00:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You want to tell me how Northrop Grumman maintains these planes for the Iranian Military? ViriiK 18:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * What does support have to do with it? You're adding your own criteria.  It is simply a list of products.  Older, out-of-production products get little to no manufacturer support anyway, e.g. KC-135.   -Fnlayson 18:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


 * To be totally accurate, most of the air products listed in that paragraph were not produced by Northrop Grumman at all. For example, F-5s and T-38s have not been made in years. The whole paragraph should be reworked to reflect this, which would eliminate any mention of the Iranian F-14s among others. The pre-merger Northrop Corporation article has little information on products at all, so some of this could be placed there.
 * Yea that's largely true. ViriiK is right, support and other things are part of being an Aerospace manufacturer.  The F-14 and others should be in an Discontinued list maybe further down the article like in the BCA article. -Fnlayson 19:14, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the F-14 should be in the aerospace products section, and in a discontinued section. I mean, they used to make it, so it counts, and they don't make it anymore. That's my argument. Also, they ended up in their military when Iran bought some just before the government was thrown over. There's even video footage of the Shah and the President passing in front of them. - An Anonymous User —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.67.24.14 (talk) 04:38, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Number of employees
The intro paragraph states the company has 200,000 employees, but the stats box states 123,600. Since the FAQ on their web site states "More than 122,000 as of 3/02/07" I'm revising the intro paragraph. I'm also removing "The presence of their much-valued sub-contractors and global vendors account for an additional 10-15% of an already formidable workforce" as I can't find a source for that, and the statements "much-valued" and "formidable workforce" sound like marketing, not encyclopedia content. CJKreklow 02:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Good change. Much more neutral and encyclopedic now. -Fnlayson 16:46, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Scandals
With the navy one, I blame the Northrop part(Grumman has had long and good relationship with the U.S. Navy--LandonJaeger (talk) 04:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)).

KC-X pullout?
In the KC-X article there is an indication, dated March 2010, that Northrop Grumman/EADS has pulled out of the bidding process for the KC-X contract. This would seem to be a major setback for NG as the contract was said to be worth US$ 35 billion for 179 tankers. It would improve the article to include this fact -- if there are reliable citations. --TGC55 (talk) 01:45, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Not quite. Only Northrop Grumman has pulled out so far.  EADS may still bid of their own or with another partner. -Fnlayson (talk) 02:52, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

War profit, continued
(see Talk:Northrop Grumman/Archive 1)

I am a former employee of Northrop Grumman. I worked there for 6 years. My husband is a former employee for Northrop Grumman. He worked there for 32 years. My father in law was a former employee for Northrop Grumman. He worked there for over 40 years. There is no such thing as WAR PROFITEERING by Northrop Grumman or ANY defense contractors. Northrop Grumman LOSES money when we go to war. Northrop Grumman makes money on research and development. There is little to no profit in replacing and fixing existing weapons. When we are at war, like the Gulf war and the current war, Northrop Grumman experiences LARGE LAYOFFS due to the lack of funding and contracts from the government. The government funds that would go to Northrop Grumman in peace time are diverted to the military for things like supplies. Northrop Grumman had a large layoff last year (2010 and will be having another one this year in 2011). Bonuses and raises for existing employees are almost virtually zero for existing employees in times of war. And almost all of the facts listed to support such a claim are based on emotion and not factual. ---Missy — Preceding unsigned comment added by IrishGirl123 (talk • contribs) 21:01, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Logicon
Currently Logicon, Inc. is briefly mentioned under Northrup-Grumman. I suggest that it is worthy of an article of its own. Peter Flass (talk) 20:55, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Major Northrop Grumman facilities
It would improve the article if the major facilities of NG were included in the article, especially aerospace manufacturing facilities.--TGC55 (talk) 16:19, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

An what about Newport News, which was NG at least until 2011 and there still must be solid bonds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_News_Shipbuilding — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.48.108.79 (talk) 20:55, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Annual revenues
Trying to figure out some information on Grumman's revenues. Originally this article said in 2010 revenue was 34 billion, and cited Grumman's website here. However, when I went to the site, it seems to suggest that revenue for 2010 was actually 28.143 billion. On the other hand, businessweek agrees with the 34 billion number for 2010, so I'm a bit confused. Maybe I'm mis-reading Northrop Grumman's website? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.255.216.179 (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Breaking Northrop-Grumman news at Area 51
From articles that link to Aviation Week: http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_12_06_2013_p0-643783.xml&p=1 The news breaking in India was within the last hour; most others, within the last 24 hrs. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:54, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/06/unmasked_area_51s_biggest_stealthiest_spy_drone_yet
 * http://www.slashgear.com/rq-180-stealth-drone-revealed-as-us-air-force-targets-hostile-skies-06307899/
 * http://defensetech.org/2013/12/06/northrop-secretly-builds-rq-180-spy-drone/
 * http://defense-update.com/20131206_aviation-week-rq-180-usaf-new-stealth-drone.html
 * http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread986505/pg1
 * http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/us-air-force-has-secretly-built-spy-drone-rq--15215.html

A picture of a stealth drone my be hard to find; I really like the B-2 picture at the top of the article herein. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 23:05, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

"BDN" is a typo
Should be "The BDM Corporation"

Long-range bomber contract for the U.S. Air Force
This will be big for Northrop Grumman Headline-1: '''BUSINESS: Northrop Grumman Wins Long-Range Bomber Deal -- Contract value estimated at $80 billion for 100 jets''' QUOTE: "The Pentagon on Tuesday awarded Northrop Grumman Corp. a $21.4 billion initial contract to build new long-range bombers for the U.S. Air Force in what has been the most fiercely fought weapons contest in more than a decade." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 23:52, 27 October 2015 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing.
 * http://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-to-award-long-range-bomber-deal-1445972943

Headline-2: US Air Force's new stealth bomber: What you need to know QUOTE: "There’s a new stealth bomber joining the U.S. Air Force and it will be one incredible aircraft. In war, this strike aircraft can fly deep into hostile areas – undetected – where it can unleash serious munitions against an enemy. The Air Force announced Tuesday that it chose Northrop Grumman to build the next generation long-range strike bomber. The Air Force has not yet chosen a name for the aircraft, which folks are referring to as “B-3”.
 * http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/10/29/air-forces-new-stealth-bomber-what-need-to-know.html?intcmp=hphz24

The new strike bomber will start deploying in about a decade. The aircraft is expected to replace the nearly four-decades old B-1 as well as the legendary B-52 Stratofortress that has served the country for about six decades.

Related: Marine Corps' new helicopter completes its first flight

This new bomber will be fully loaded with lots of technologies and next-gen innovations that are cloaked in secrecy. It may even withstand nuclear weapon-generated electromagnetic pulses (EMPs) and still operate.

What will it be like?

The military has kept details of the wish list for its new bomber classified.

During the Super Bowl, Northrop Grumman’s ad featured a new aircraft shrouded in mystery – literally cloaked at one point. Some industry experts believe this was a representation of Northrop’s vision for the new mysterious bomber." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 11:10, 2 November 2015 (UTC) -- PS: This is a great article, pointing out the need for secrecy, and Northrop-Grumman's good job of keeping the 'B-3' under wraps, (cf. Superbowl ad). FYI for additional future editing. To be an editor here, you will want to watch the 6min video. It is excellent!


 * The LRS Bomber details do not belong in the corporation's article. It has a separate article at Long Range Strike Bomber.  Also, be aware that talk pages are for improving articles and are not a forum. -Fnlayson (talk) 13:30, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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New contract: "Northrop Grumman sees a day when American Navy destroyers will pack laser cannons." Headline-1: Don't Look Now, But the Navy's Laser Arms Race Just Got Hotter QUOTE: "Two months ago, Northrop Grumman won a Navy contract to build a new laser cannon..." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 05:28, 21 March 2016 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing. Another two references on the Northrop Grumman laser cannon for military application: http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2015/12/05/northrop-grumman-invents-laser-tank.html http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2016/01/02/northrop-grumman-builds-biggest-laser-gun-ever.html Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 05:39, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
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